A few observations here: your .emacs probably has something like:
(autoload 'j-mode "j-mode.el" "Major mode for editing J files" t) If we translated this to J, it might look something like: j_mode=:3 :0 NB. j_mode instead of j-mode because different rules about names load 'j-mode.ijs' NB. .ijs instead of .el because of different conventions j_mode_base_ y ) In other words, the initial definition is not the actual working definition - the first time you use it, you get a lot of other definitions happening. This should explain why you do not initially see a j-console-cmd definition. Meanwhile, the documentation for defcustom -- https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/eintr/defcustom.html -- claims that the second argument is only used to set the value if it has not already been set. So, translating to j again, it might look something like this: defcustom=:4 :0 if. _1=nc<x do. (x)=: y end. ) (We don't have a similar documentation system for J names, so I am ignoring that part. J used to have an 'edit' verb included which could provide a similar feature, but only for non-nouns and it has been lost from recent J implementations.) So if defcustom is overriding the value you set... well... the advise in that page of documentation says you should check your .emacs file to see if you've got something overriding it, there. If not ... well.. more information needed, in that case, I guess. Worst case you could always just edit your copy of j-console.el -- a copy pulled from https://github.com/zellio/j-mode is also versioned 1.1.1 and has j-console-cmd defined as 'ijconsole': https://github.com/zellio/j-mode/blob/master/j-console.el#L49 Good luck, -- Raul On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Bill Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > I may have found a clue. M-h v j-console-cmd in a fresh Emacs can't find a > match. If I run M-x j-console, I find I'm running j-mode-1.1.1, M-h v > j-console-cmd shows my customized version (ijconsole). > > j-console.el shows > > (defcustom j-console-cmd "jconsole" > "Name of the executable used for the J REPL session" > :type 'string > :group 'j-console) > > Is it possible that starting J inside org mode starts a new session and > j-console.el redefines j-console-cmd to point to the java console? I'm not > sure; I did try redefining that string (changed it to "ijconsole" and then > executed the defcustom), and it still failed with /bin/bash: jconsole: > command not found. > > Does that spark any insights? > > Thanks, > > Bill > > On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Bill Harris < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Daniel, >> >> The computer /is/ plugged in. :-) >> >> Hmm. I have version 20171127 with status "dependency" and no entry in the >> archive column. I think that's from GNU elpa, since I upgraded it before >> adding the melpa stable repo. I figure that's pretty up-to-date, assuming >> that really is a date code. Here's what I get in the help window for org: >> >> org is a dependency package. >> >> Status: Installed in ‘org-20171127/’, >> shadowing a built-in package. >> Version: 20171127 >> Summary: Outline-based notes management and organizer >> Required by: ox-tufte-20160926.907, ox-pandoc-20161101.1920 >> Other versions: 20171127 (gnu), builtin. >> >> I ran M-x package-list-packages, and that's the only package with the >> name "org"--nothing in the gnu or melpa-stable archives. Ideas? >> >> Hmm. I just installed j-mode today, so I hadn't played around with it >> much so far. M-f certainly thinks that i. is two words. That's not >> helpful. >> >> Bill >> >> On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Daniel Lyons <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> > On Dec 3, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Bill Harris <bill_harris@facilitatedsystem >>> s.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Bill, >>> > >>> > I did install j from the .deb file, I've updated org mode from elpa, I >>> > installed j-mode from melpa stable, I customized j-console-cmd to >>> ijconsole >>> > to get REPL access to J, but org mode still doesn't work. What do I >>> need >>> > to install from a deb file? >>> >>> >>> This might be a "turn it off and back on" type suggestion, so forgive me >>> if you did this, but Emacs comes with a much older org-mode than the one >>> distributed in MELPA, it may be worth trying to upgrade that too, since the >>> extensions almost always depend on the newer one. >>> >>> By the way, how do you navigate a line of J in Emacs? It seems to me that >>> forward-word and forward-sexp both seem to have no idea where J core verbs >>> start and end, and I have found it kind of frustrating to use M-f and M-b >>> or C-M-f or C-M-b in j-mode. I am not sure which package is the "main" one >>> (or how to fix this issue, for that matter). >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Lyons >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
