Sorry about that. People talk about whether an expression is tacit or not. I really don't care. Another way to tell if an expression is tacit or not. If the result is a noun it's not tacit. The expression may contain parenthesized sub-expressions which are tacit. Does that make the entire expression tacit. I don't think so, but does it really matter?
And I really love monadic (;). Can do many wondrous things with it. On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:05 PM 'Jim Russell' via General < [email protected]> wrote: > I confused the issue Don, and I'm sure you are right. I was asking about > what I called "expositional tacit" expressions, which Roger explained > relied on forks, which let me finally understand how the x and y arguments > got applied to the verbs between the ";'s", which encouraged me to stick a > bunch of constants between ";" verbs, which needed no x or y arguments ..., > etc. > > Hey, I don't pretend to use correct terminology; I just show up every now > and then to flaunt my ignorance! > > > On Dec 9, 2019, at 5:25 PM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > If I may throw in my two cents worth. > > > > Tacit expressions are somewhat vague as to what they are. To > over-simplify, > > they are verb expressions missing noun arguments due to lack of noun > > arguments in the statement or being enclosed in parentheses. Adverbs and > > conjunctions have nothing to do with whether or not an expression is > tacit. > > They simply use verbs and nouns as their arguments which then result in > new > > verbs using the same rules for the modifier whether in a tacit expression > > or not. > > > > In analyzing a statement one should first resolve how modifiers build new > > verbs. Then once the verbs are determined determine if the noun arguments > > are missing. If they are missing, look to the three tacit rules for > verbs - > > forks, hooks and trains. Otherwise, follow the normal right-to-left rule > > for verb execution. > > > > Okay. Maybe one could consider the statement (+/1 2 3) as having the > > expression (+/) tacit. I don't know. As I said earlier, tacit expressions > > are somewhat vague. > > > >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:05 PM Raul Miller <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I don't really understand your questions -- and I'm also not sure how > >> I feel about calling noun phrases "tacit expressions". > >> That said, I think you might be asking about something related to this: > >> (16#.15),(16#.35),(10#.35),(1#.35),(0#.35) > >> 15 35 35 35 35 > >> And, possibly, also, this: > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabetical_order? > >> But I'm not sure... that said... depending on where this needs to > >> go... maybe we should take it to the [email protected] forum? > >> Thanks, > >> -- > >> Raul > >>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 3:55 PM 'Jim Russell' via General > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Having started to understand tacit expressions, I'll use one to > >> illustrate what I found at the bottom of one: > >>> (16bf;16bz;10bz;1bz;0bz) > >>> +--+--+--+--+--+ > >>> |15|35|35|35|35| > >>> +--+--+--+--+--+ > >>> Which raises another, why no A thru Z? > >>> Or a third, originally mentioned by Robert G. Brown: > >>> Why are so many things arraigned alphabetically, when there is > >> absolutely no intrinsic order to the letters of the alphabet? (Is there > >> anything else that needs a mumbled child's song to remember?) > >>> (Speaking of RGB: Having lost touch, I checked Wikipedia; > >>> Good news-he is listed, > >>> Bad news -there is a link to his obituary, > >>> Good news - there is a 404 not found error. > >>> Anyone have recent news? > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
