1. Good promotional video, Bob. I'm almost convinced. The fun starts (as it ever did with APL) when you've prototyped something useful, and you have to maintain it a year later. Or someone else does.
To complete the "apologia" we just need a compelling explanation of why J needs its own version of scientific notation, and represents division by "%", not the near-universal "/", plus having an extra minus sign, "_" . > how to make changes to the wiki while it is still in use. Whenever I hit this problem, e.g. over NuVoc and Guides/iOS, I make a copy of the page collection to be replaced inside my own "User:" folder, edit that, then copy the finished replacement back over the original collection. It's not vastly different from what Art suggests: a parallel wiki. At each stage you have a working wiki overall. A final patch-up of page links is sometimes needed, but this gives little trouble in practice, since you can scan the links for embedded "User:" or look for red links. Ian Clark On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 at 21:26, 'robert therriault' via General < [email protected]> wrote: > Present: Art Anger, Will Gajate, Raul Miller, Bob Therriault. > > Will updated the progress made on the J playground. It is now up and > running for your consideration. > https://wgajate.github.io/jsource/bin/html/emj.html During the meeting we > temporarily switched the font to Courier, which improved the display of > boxed types. Next steps will be to work on the IDE so that it is closer to > the JHS or IDE approach of menus across the top of the area. A future > target will be to enable the foreign conjunctions that may be necessary in > order to include labs in the playground. > > Bob previewed the draft version of the billboard video which was put up on > YouTube just before the meeting > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV936cVrN0I . It was received well, with > Art pointing out that the reference to pipes linking to the plumber's > metaphor might need to be a bit stronger and that there definitely needs to > be a pause and restart option when viewing as there is a lot of information > that would face the newcomer. This functionality is available if we host > with YouTube, but if we choose to host J's servers would need to have a > interface written that allows for that. Raul pointed out that we should > have a link at the end of the video for the resources, but upon further > investigation Bob doesn't meet the requirements to be a Youtube associate, > which means clickable links are not available. In a future version, Bob > will include at least a web address for those who are not already on the > wiki when they are viewing. What is more interesting is the response that > it has got from the wider array programming community. To begin, even > before we finished the meeting YouTube provided this excellent critical > response. > > Brian Rice > Okay this is a good script, and the pacing is also great. I admire J, but > this made me feel more like I could like J. > But I think you should work on your audio, whether it’s microphone choice > or placement, or in audio processing, an audio track with fewer or softer > mouth noises will be less distracting and help people focus more easily on > your message. > > At the time of writing, this has been followed by: > > Programming Siri > Thanks, I love J. More of these please, especially tacit programs > > Rodrigo Girão Serrão > Watching this made me want to quit APL, Python, and all other languages, > and just pick up J (: > > michaelmanti > Brilliant video, Bob. Really shows off what's so attractive about J for > analytical use cases--even those where the data aren't numbers. > > And then it was put up on the APL_farm discord (a forum for APL,K,BQN and > J), where current array programming enthusiasts responded. > > South — Yesterday at 5:24 PM > damn yeah this video rocks. i laughed when i saw how easy it is to plot > data > milia — Yesterday at 10:12 PM > What a great teaser ! Great work Bob ! Can we share this already online ? > awagga — Today at 5:02 AM > Totally a great video, I'm almost convinced to switch ;) > rak1507 — Today at 9:18 AM > really nice video love the emphasis on just doing things simply and easily > xash — Today at 11:03 AM > To repeat what other have said: really nice video! Showed it some > colleagues and they are finally interested in J now, my ramblings weren't > as effective. > > In any case, we are more interested in the response of users of the forum > as well, but also any non-array programmers who you might know. > > The next topic was the J wiki landing page. I had not done much work on it > in the last week and plan put more attention to it in the coming week. This > brought up a discussion on how to make changes to the wiki while it is > still in use. A bit like constructing an airplane in flight. Art suggested > parallel wikis. Bob wondered if that would be effective, since people tend > to stay with what they know even when the new thing has benefits. This will > be a discussion that continues as we get closer to putting in these changes. > > As always, if any of this is of interest to you, let us know on the > general forum and we can include you in invitations to the next J wiki > meeting on February 17th, 2022. Any comments that you have on the report > should also be addressed to the general forum. > > Previous reports can be found here: > https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Wiki_Development > > Cheers, bob > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
