Yeah, me too.  I tried earlier today to create a loss of data by using two browsers, but I couldn't.

Henry Rich


On 5/11/2022 3:42 PM, Devon McCormick wrote:
I usually do the first two steps Ian mentions - save all in the clipboard
and try again.  Lately I've gotten even lazier and just try again right
away and it hasn't failed in at least 10 tries.

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 2:23 PM Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Recent Changes…
Thanks, Raul. That's a start. I'll give it a try next time it happens.
Trouble is, it's not a condition that can be triggered at will. At least, I
don't know how.

MediaWiki does a lot of logging, in so many different ways. When I have a
spare week I must study it more.

On Wed, 11 May 2022 at 19:04, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Recent Changes link on the left side of wiki pages is useful for
checking recent (potential) edits.

I know, I know, this sounds "obvious" but with so many competing
pieces of potentially useful information in front of us, "obvious" is
all-too-often in short supply.

I hope this helps,

--
Raul

On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 12:23 PM Ian Clark <earthspo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I too would like a clear statement of best practice for recovering from
this situation. Maybe as a flowchart.

Whenever I see the warning message (usually after hitting "Save
changes")
my reflex action is to do what Bob recommends: scroll to the "editing
area"
and copy/paste it for emergency recovery. But it's so rarely necessary.
Usually it works to simply hit the "Save Changes" button a second time.
(If
I dare.)

On occasions when I've panicked (and thus forgotten how exactly I
responded) it's subsequently emerged that the server has actually
registered my changes and updated the page. But to verify this fact is
not
a simple task. If someone could only tell me how best to do it – as a
reflex action – the "demon warning" would no longer be an issue for me.

Good task-support for the task of recovery might include
-- a button which reliably copies the editing area to the system
pasteboard, not disruptable by a sick server or connection,
-- a confirmation message fom the server that the last "Save Changes"
button-click did not (logically) alter the page contents.

Ian

On Wed, 11 May 2022 at 16:51, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote:

I think it's simply a loss of your reservation after a timeout.
Wikipedia does the same.

When you start editing a page, you get rights to it for a short time
(maybe 5 min?).  After that, it's up for grabs.  When you repeat your
save, it goes through (parhaps after a check for conflict).

Henry Rich

On 5/11/2022 11:41 AM, 'robert therriault' via General wrote:
Before reloading the page, I would suggest copying your most recent
edits if you can.
Then if you lose the edits on reloading, you should be able go to
the
original page, edit and paste in your saved edits to continue on.
I have seen this as well, although not very often and I put it down
to
an interruption to my internet that might not be noticed by me on my
browser,
but was enough to disrupt the editing process within the wiki.

Cheers, bob

On May 11, 2022, at 08:33, Raul Miller <rauldmil...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I suspect that that message means that your browser has lost track
of
a cookie or failed to perform a secondary request.

It does not seem to be a timeout. Or, if that message does
represent a
timeout, there are also other issues which can trigger the
problem:
Sometimes simply reloading the page has been sufficient to make
the
message go away.

I hope this helps,

--
Raul

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 11:29 PM Arthur Anger <
artan...@comcast.net
wrote:
Now and then, after many minutes of making editing changes to a
Wiki
page, a Save request is greeted by:
   Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session
data.
   You might have been logged out.  . . .

Is this a timeout in the editor, and can it be lengthened?

Is this instead a result of temporary loss of communication,
which
does occur occasionally, but doesn't often have a visual effect
during
an
editing session?
I have sometimes managed to copy the edited page and reinstate it
later, but wonder if there is standard recovery procedure.
Thanks.
--Art

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