> we need a way to improve the state of our tree.

Agreed.

> My idea is simple: send a summary email to this list with the current
> state of the tree.
>
> this should have a list of the build failures, ranked by the number of
> other builds that depend on it.

Not ranked, but isn't this this? The 'affected' is intended to rank. I know
there is an overestimate in this number, but I didn't think there was an
underestimate [see below].

    http://lsd.student.utwente.nl/gump/project_todos.html

I look at this page (like today) and focus on the one(s) w/ the highest
number -- hence the two mails I've sent today.

> For example:
>
>   excalibur-logging is breaking basically 40% of our tree and nobody
> gives a damn.
>
>   nekohtml is not even there and again, it breaks a huge part of the
> tree thru HTTPUnit that depends on it

Not sure these match what I see at:

    http://lsd.student.utwente.nl/gump/project_todos.html

Is your 'view' more accurate? Can you elaborate on how you calculated these?

> My point it: we need a way to focus on hotspots.

Yup.

> Cocoon hasn't been built for 6 months because of dependency failures.

Funny, that was exactly what I was looking at today. I think an analysis of
this (known to be bloated) table gives us a view of how close something is
to getting built. Maybe we need to review the numbers of projects in various
states for here & see if this helps us detect non-lost-causes.


http://lsd.student.utwente.nl/gump/cocoon-2.1/cocoon_details.html#Full+Project+Dependencies

> I'm committed to make this change, who's with me?

I'm committed to your goal. I want 100% Gumpage as the norm & failures to
stand out. I'll help where I can.

regards,

Adam


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