Ceki G�lc� wrote:


Hello Stefano,

We have been trying to shed the Category class for over 3 years. It
has been and still is an excruciatingly difficult and long process.

eheh, being at the bottom of the dependency chain is hard job :-)

As
long as source code does not directly refer to the Category class but
uses Logger instead, it should be compatible with both existing log4j
versions, in particular 1.2.x, and future log4j versions, and in particular
log4j 1.3.x.

Rest of my response below.

At 07:07 AM 10/29/2004, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

Ceki,

your action

http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/logging-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j/Category.java?r1=1.88&r2=1.89&diff_format=h


caused a compilation failure of the following projects:

  - commons-logging
  - velocity
  - ant

and, as a result, caused a drop in the gump's success from 83% to 53%, for more info see:

 http://brutus.apache.org/gump/public/project_todos.html

Now, since this is a back incompatible change, we (the gumpmeisters) would like to know:

1) if you might be willing to revert the change if you did not intend to cause such effect

2) if not, if you are willing to move the previous version of the tree into a branch so that we can migrate the dependencies to that


Changes that do not allow existing client code to be compatible with
both 1.2.x and 1.3.x will be reverted. However, existing client code
should also make an effort not to use or refer to the Category
class. I believe that as long as client code does not refer to the
Category class but uses Logger instead, then both backward and forward
compatibility should be achievable.

As I said, we (gumpers) don't care what solution is adopted, as long as one is :-)



3) if not, if you are willing to work with the offended dependees to restore their success status.


That goes without saying. Allow me to look more closely at the
specific failures so that I can compile a precise recipe for restoring
success.

I think it is important that we do not panic and address each error
individually. (This is an appeal to myself as much as the rest of the
bunch.)

oh, there is no panic, just timely updates since gump is not (yet!) able to send email to the causer, but only to the ones effected.

Don't worry, we'll sort it out and we want to make gump a useful tool, not a silly noisy nagging bastard as it is today :-)

--
Stefano.


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