+1 I feel the same. From following HBase seeing its releases depending directly on Hadoop release gets me thinking...
Best regards, Imran On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> wrote: > Eclipse does big bang releases of multiple components, but I believe > it requires a huge amount of coordination and planning. Instead, I > think the direction Hadoop should move in is to stabilize and clearly > demarcate its core filesystem and MapReduce interfaces, so that > projects like HBase, Pig, and Hive can run against multiple versions > of core. Their release cycles are already largely decoupled from core, > so the question about whether they become TLPs is more to do with > project governance than with release coordination. > > Cheers, > Tom > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Jay Booth <[email protected]> wrote: >> Not sure exactly what I meant by "1.0 of what", "Hadoop" I guess, I was >> trying to address the concerns raised, which I share -- Alan's concern is >> that if the projects are completely separate from each other, that might >> decrease visibility as to the demands they're placing on each other when >> integrated, and St.Ack mentioned the frankenstein factor which I think we've >> all felt some pain from, and which may get worse after the project split. >> What's the standard way to deploy the three, even? Is there one? >> >> If the PMCs jointly maintained some sort of 'stable integrated build' which >> took in new releases from the TLPs as they were released after a soak >> period, it could provide a common touchstone that bugs could be tested >> against and cross-component patches delivered against, potentially >> increasing visibility of cross-component issues while providing a less >> cobbled-together system to administrate. On the other side, though, if >> executed wrong, you'd be creating a committee of committees and possibly >> undoing some of the benefits of going TLP in the first place, especially if >> politics heat up over what goes into the 'standard' build. I think it could >> be viable though. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Arun C Murthy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2010, at 6:41 PM, Jay Booth wrote: >>> >>> What if the projects were: >>>> >>>> A) split out to TLPs because they do seem to have reached that level of >>>> individual community >>>> >>>> but, >>>> >>>> B) The projects could somehow jointly put out an integrated build >>>> containing the above projects and let users run whatever they want out of >>>> it? >>>> >>>> That would require a lot of coordination but would make a heck of a 1.0 >>>> release, >>>> >>> >>> >>> 1.0 release of what? >>> >>> Arun >>> >> > -- Imran M Yousuf Entrepreneur & Software Engineer Smart IT Engineering Dhaka, Bangladesh Email: [email protected] Blog: http://imyousuf-tech.blogs.smartitengineering.com/ Mobile: +880-1711402557
