On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 09:32, Eric Baldeschwieler <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm a huge supporter of the idea. On a related note, we've been looking for 
> the right time to mavenize. Maybe we can do both together. We could pitch in 
> a bunch of work on both if we could get the timing right.

Adding maveninzation - a great effort by itself with a lot of
potential pitfalls - into the splitting frenzy has a good chances to
be pretty disruptive for individual developers. I well remember how
people were screaming because virtually nothing worked in past-split
time and they had to invent and learn new tricks to merely do their
work.

Being a great tool Maven has a relatively steep learning curve which
won't ease the fact the projects layout have changed again and
everyone will have to adjust their workbenches to address that fact.

I suggest these two events are better be well separated in time.
  Cos

> We've got a huge batch of commits in flight now, but if we can find something 
> that satisfied the 22 crowd after we sync in, we'd be happy to pitch in on 
> unsplit and/or maven.
>
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>
> On Jan 14, 2011, at 5:43 AM, "Ian Holsman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> on that note... I propose we discuss un-splitting the project altogether.
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 3:39 AM, Jakob Homan wrote:
>>
>>> +1. The project split is a lie.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Ian Holsman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> +1 full agreement.
>>>>
>>>> I think it will be a pita admin wise (due to how svn authorization is set 
>>>> up), so it might slow down creation of a new branch, but its worth it.
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Ian Holsman
>>>> AOL Inc
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> (703) 879-3128 / AIM:ianholsman
>>>>
>>>> it's just a technicality
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Eric Baldeschwieler <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Death to the project split!  Or short of that, anything to tame it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:18 PM, Nigel Daley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I look more at the impact of the common/MR/HDFS project split on what 
>>>>>> and how we release Hadoop, I feel like the split needs an adjustment.  
>>>>>> Many folks I've talked to agree that the project split has caused us a 
>>>>>> splitting headache.  I think 1 relatively small change could alleviate 
>>>>>> some of that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CURRENT SVN REPO:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hadoop / [common, mapreduce, hdfs] / trunk
>>>>>> hadoop / [common, mapreduce, hdfs] / branches
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PROPOSAL:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hadoop / trunk / [common, mapreduce, hdfs]
>>>>>> hadoop / branches / [common, mapreduce, hdfs]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're a long way from releasing these 3 projects independently.  Given 
>>>>>> that, they should be branched and released as a unit.  This SVN 
>>>>>> structure enforces that and provides a more natural place to keep a top 
>>>>>> level build and pkg scripts that operate across all 3 projects.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Nige
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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