On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 21:40, Eric Baldeschwieler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 17, 2011, at 9:13 PM, Nigel Daley wrote:
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>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:53 AM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze wrote:
>>>
> ...
>>> Why do we want to enforce the releases as a unit, given that the long term
>>> target is to release these 3 projects independently?
>>
>> Because that long term view is currently a fantasy with no real end in sight.
>
> ** +1 to that.  We release as a unit, branch as a unit, test as a unit, 
> deploy as a unit.  I've seen no actual gain from the project split, just 
> complexity.

Am I missing something in the latest development of Hadoop, Eric? What
do you mean by 'we... test as a unit'? Is it like we have test
artifacts version'd against Hadoop release proper? Or you are trying
to say something else? It isn't very clear, sorry...

Cos


>> Nige
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Nigel Daley <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Sent: Fri, January 14, 2011 11:21:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move project split down a level
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Tsz Wo (Nicholas), Sze wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>>
>>>>> As I look more at the impact of the common/MR/HDFS project split on what
>>>>> and how we release Hadoop, I feel like the split needs an adjustment.  
>>>>> Many
>>>>> folks I've talked to agree that the project split has caused us a 
>>>>> splitting
>>>>> headache.  I think 1 relatively small change could alleviate some of that.
>>>>
>>>> Could you elaborate your idea on how the proposed changes would help?  
>>>> What the
>>>>
>>>> problems are being addressed?  It is not clear to me.
>>>
>>> Critical in my mind was my statement: "We're a long way from releasing 
>>> these 3
>>> projects independently.  Given that, they should be branched and released 
>>> as a
>>> unit."  This can not be enforced given the current svn layout. Other's can 
>>> weigh
>>> in with additional thoughts.
>>>
>>>> You are right that the change is small but the impact is huge.  We should 
>>>> first
>>>>
>>>> understand what we are getting from the changes before doing it.
>>>
>>> What do you see as the huge impact?
>>>
>>> Nige
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