Yes, donating hardware to ASF is tricky for all the reasons you've outlined, not the least of which you can't donate to a specific project. That's why I emphasized **access** to hardware in my request.
Background of current ASF build machines: 1) Y! officially donated 4 machines to ASF, hosting them in a Y! data center. ASF allocated 2 to Jenkins which helped Hadoop a little bit. These are minerva and vesta, aka ubuntu1 and ubuntu2 slaves. The other 2 were allocated to a build bot setup which didn't help Hadoop. 2) A year or so later Y! put another 30 machines in the same rack as the 4 donated ASF machines, but didn't actually donate them to the ASF. When I asked ASF Infra folks, no one had problems hooking up non ASF hardware to the ASF Jenkins. Thus from these 30 machines, hadoop1 thru hadoop9 are now Jenkins slaves, plus a bunch of other nodes not connected to Jenkins. So, donating **access** to hardware for Hadoop builds has been a relatively successful model over the past couple years. Again, another open to donating **access** to hardware for Hadoop builds? Cheers, Nige On Aug 2, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > As I mentioned before, I believe that ASF Infra explicitly does *not* want > donated EC2 instances, but again, check with them to be sure and as to what > the donation process is regardless. > > A. > > On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:01 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That's good to know, Kos. >> >> Is there any place I can find the actual usage (in terms of utilization / >> memory-cpu-disk usage) of these build machines ? >> >> Based on the Amazon EC2 pricing (http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/), I >> would like to determine which type of instances would be adequate, and how >> much yearly budget would be needed. >> >> Since ASF is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, charitable organization, these >> donations would be tax deductible for U.S. Based individuals. (Plus for >> new AWS members, there is a free tier for 1 year.) Is there build infra in >> place that will allow these individually donated ec2 instances to be >> utilized ? >> >> - Milind >> --- >> Milind Bhandarkar >> Greenplum Labs, >> EMC >> >> >> (Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this email are those of the author, and >> do >> not necessarily represent the views of any organization, past or >> present, the author might be affiliated with.) >> >> >> >> >> >> On 8/2/11 11:39 AM, "Konstantin Boudnik" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Milind. >>> >>> From about 30 boxes Y! gave to ASF at least (I believe there were more, >>> but at >>> least that much) 10 of them were used _exclusively_ as Hadoop build/test >>> machines (e.g. Hudson slaves) and a number of others (about 5 at least) >>> were >>> used for Hadoop deployment testing _exclusively_. So, I think the claim >>> above >>> doesn't reflect the real situation with hardware donation or perhaps is >>> missing some of the details ;). >>> >>> With that in mind I came across this article goo.gl/EVp5S and now I have >> a >>> bright idea! Shall the hardware donation be proportional to the proclaimed >>> market share (or installation base) of a particular commercial >>> distribution's >>> vendor? That'd be only fair I guess... Apache Hadoop is about 65% of the >>> installation and Y! brought in 30 machines. If a vendor A or C has say 30% >>> then may be they feel good by donating something like 15 boxes to the >>> cause? >>> >>> -- >>> Take care, >>> Konstantin (Cos) Boudnik >>> 2CAC 8312 4870 D885 8616 6115 220F 6980 1F27 E622 >>> >>> Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this email are those of the author, >>> and do >>> not necessarily represent the views of any company the author might be >>> affiliated with at the moment of writing. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 01:38PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> A couple of questions for Nigel and Andrew: >>>> >>>> 1. What do you mean by "non-single-purpose machines" ? (I guess, >>>> machines >>>> they can use for non-Hadoop projects as well ?) >>>> >>>> 2. Do these machines have to be physical boxes or virtual machines be >>>> okay >>>> too ? (sudo on virtual machines would be easier to sell than on physical >>>> boxes.) >>>> >>>> 3. What's the process for donations ? >>>> >>>> - milind >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Milind Bhandarkar >>>> Greenplum Labs, >>>> EMC >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/2/11 8:07 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> FWIW, the ASF Infra guys aren't that keen on more machines they won't >>>> have >>>>> physical control of. There may be some wiggle room on that, but they'll >>>>> definitely need sudo and they would much prefer non-single-purpose >>>>> machines. >>>>> Just a heads up from my talks with Infra lately. >>>>> >>>>> A. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Nigel Daley <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Given the Hadoop build machines have been offline for a few day, this >>>>>> would >>>>>> be a good time to see if other companies can donate **access** to >>>> some >>>>>> build hardware to diversify our donors. Currently there are roughly >>>> 30 >>>>>> machines donated by Yahoo! >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideally the hardware is: >>>>>> * hosted and OS managed by the donor, >>>>>> * publicly addressable on the internet, >>>>>> * running Ubuntu or CentOS, and >>>>>> * sudo access can be given to Apache's Jenkins admins so they can >>>> create >>>>>> accounts for committers as needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Nige >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>
