On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:04PM, Konstantin Shvachko wrote:
> Hadoop naming is definitely confusing. And having Hadoop-1 did not
> make it less confusing for users.
> 
> > Current 0.22 -> Gets renamed to 1.5 (if it ever gets tested and released)
> 
> It was released on November 29, 2011.
> eBay is actively using it as of today.
> 
> If the goal of renaming branches is to make things less confusing
> about Hadoop, then I agree with people saying we should do a
> simultaneous rename of the branches. That is
> Current 0.22 -> 2
> Current 0.23 -> 3
> 
> It almost sounds like release .22 does not deserve a whole number,
> only a fraction. But having .22 renamed to 1.5 creates a confusion
> that it belongs to Hadoop-1 line, which is not exactly the message we
> want to send out.
> Also I don't know what the number of commits reflects, and whether it
> is good or not to have many for a particular release.
> 
> If the community decides to rename .22 to 2 I will be glad to work on it.

Count me in

Cos

> Thanks,
> --Konstantin
> 
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Todd Papaioannou
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Mar 18, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:
> >
> >> 9.22 can't be considered as 1.5 because it is the major release from 1.0 
> >> (old
> >> 0.20.x). Besides, by declaring it as 1.5 we'll be planting future 
> >> confusion of
> >> the same sort that happened around 0.20* line.
> >>
> >> And last but not least, the same ═discussion has happened in the past 
> >> around
> >> 1.0 release time like http://is.gd/x1fVqu
> >
> > Yes I remember it well, but AFAIC there was no clear decision on 0.22 or 
> > 0.23. There were competing proposals and opinions and basically what 
> > happened was that we punted the decision on anything other than 0.20->1.0 
> > until a later date. But, that later date is now approaching and we continue 
> > to call the current release in question 0.23. Hence my original email.
> >
> > Personally, I do not believe 0.22 is sufficiently major to call it 2.0 and 
> > push 0.23 to 3.0. But that's just my $0.02. I don't feel strongly enough to 
> > worry about what the outcome is.
> >
> > What I _do_ care strongly about is that we get some resolution and stop 
> > using 0.23 as a release name. It's confusing to the market and the customer 
> > base, and while we have made great progress in simplifying things with the 
> > 1.0 release moniker, we need to continue to make progress.
> >
> > ToddP
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Cos
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:41PM, Todd Papaioannou wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> With the upcoming release of 0.23, isn't it about time that we started 
> >>> calling 0.23 "Hadoop 2.0" instead?
> >>>
> >>> While the numbering system may make sense to everyone here, to the rest 
> >>> of the world it's going to be hella confusing for 0.23 to come out after 
> >>> Hadoop 1.0 was released. Since 0.23 has MR2 in it I think that it would 
> >>> make sense to call it 2.0. Also, I think would really help with the brand 
> >>> awareness/perception of the project in the wider customer audience.
> >>>
> >>> I know there are some other potential releases out there too, so my 
> >>> overall suggestion would be:
> >>>
> >>> Current 1.X -> Remains 1.x (as new bug fix releases are released)
> >>> Current 0.22 -> Gets renamed to 1.5 (if it ever gets tested and released)
> >>> Current 0.23 -> Gets renamed to 2.0
> >>>
> >>> Remember, a large part of the reason for renaming 0.20.xx to 1.0 was to 
> >>> make project progress more understandable to the rest of the world. We 
> >>> should ensure we don't regress with the next major release.
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> ToddP
> >>>
> >

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