Vinod, I don't see what the PMC Chair does has any barring on how we select them. Yes I agree that a -1 will not be an issue. That is why I said "However, I don't think in practice it really matters if we allow for vetoes or not." I too am +1 for Owen's suggestion, but I would like to see a vote thread with the exact diff of the change to the bylaws.
--Bobby On 11/13/12 12:47 PM, "Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli" <vino...@hortonworks.com> wrote: > >+1 to Owen's suggestion. > >Bobby, recall that PMC Chair is (just) a representative who communicates >with the board on behalf of the PMC, and not any sort of "leader" (See >http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair); all the project decisions are >driven by the PMC collectively. Given that, one should not expect vetoes >at all in this vote. > >Thanks, >+Vinod > >On Nov 13, 2012, at 7:25 AM, Robert Evans wrote: > >> The current bylaws state that the PMC chair recommendation to the apache >> board should be based off of lazy consensus. That means that any PMC >> member can -1(veto) a candidate so long as they give a valid reason with >> the veto. The validity of the reason for the veto if challenged can be >> confirmed by another PMC member. I am fine with the proposal to use >>STV. >> However, I don't think in practice it really matters if we allow for >> vetoes or not. If someone really feels strongly enough to veto a >> candidate, they would also feel strongly enough make their reason known >> during the voting and discussion on the candidate. If the reason is >>valid >> enough to withstand a challenge I would suspect it would also be valid >> enough to influence any voting process we set up. I don't care what >> voting process we use, I just care that the bylaws are clarified to pick >> one that can handle one or more candidates. >> >> -- Bobby >> >> On 11/12/12 5:53 PM, "Owen O'Malley" <omal...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Nicholas. >>> >>> I think the vote for PMC chair should be a straight majority vote with >>>STV >>> used in the case of more than 2 choices. Using +1 and/or -1's when >>>voting >>> in a multiple choice seems confused and likely to cause more problems >>>than >>> it solves. >>> >>> -- Owen >> >
