[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html
On 21 March 2013 17:15, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > Just thought to check the foundation's glossary of terms[1], and found: > > 'Consensus approval' refers to a vote (sense 1) which has completed with >> at least three binding +1 votes and no vetos. > > > This is what Hadoop is calling "lazy consensus", which is defined in the > above document as: > > A decision-making policy which assumes general consent if no responses are >> posted within a defined period. > > > For context, I originally brought this issue up on the CloudStack lists. > But I was told that CloudStack copied it's initial by-laws from Hadoop. And > maybe other incubating projects are doing the same. So it seems important > to fix. > > > On 21 March 2013 17:11, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was just reading through the by-laws[1] and it occurred to me that we >> might have the wrong definition of lazy consensus. >> >> Specifically, we define it here: >> >> "3.2.1. Lazy Consensus - Lazy consensus requires 3 binding +1 votes and >> no binding -1 votes." >> >> My understanding of lazy consensus is that it requires no votes >> whatsoever. In fact, there are two modes. The first is to simply do >> whatever it is you think is a good idea, and assume someone will speak up >> if they disagree. The other is to state your intention, and give 72 hours >> for people to object. If you receive no objections, you proceed. >> >> Neither of these situations require any votes. And in fact, the primary >> idea behind lazy consensus is that if you hear nothing, you can proceed. >> >> Here's a good page about it: >> >> http://rave.apache.org/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html >> >> If you look on the foundation's page[2] on voting, you even see things >> like this: >> >> "Unless a vote has been declared as using lazy consensus, three +1 votes >> are required for a code-modification proposal to pass." >> >> i.e. Needing three +1 votes is an alternative to lazy consensus. >> >> Thoughts on this? >> >> [1] http://hadoop.apache.org/bylaws.html >> >> [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#LazyConsensus >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> NS >> > > > > -- > NS > -- NS
