Re: Generated sites

[Leo Simons]

Jason van Zyl wrote:

On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 11:32, Leo Simons wrote:
 

Jason volunteered, I volunteered, we were given access easily enough,
proposals were accepted easily enough, and then it just took weeks for
us to get things in shape. That's got little to do with process or
committees, but more with the busy agenda of the volunteers.
   

I doubt that.

what exactly do you doubt? That I was given access, that my agenda is 
full, or
that there wasn't a committee in the way? Does not compute...(yes, I am 
dense)

I guess most of the same applies to Jira. We were waiting for a week or
two for Noel and Serge to get things in place, now we're waiting for a
week or two more for Jeff to finish something I can't remember. IMV,
it has got little to do with committees, more with lack of time / lack of
volunteers.
   

Rigth, as with everything things just mysteriously disappear into a
blackhole. Why is that?
"In Open Source, many create, few finish." - can't remember who said that.

I don't know. Do you? Maybe we just need an issue tracker.

With geronimo, the guys were told several times over the course
of several weeks how to generate and get in place their website
(which is not rocket science). That's got nothing to do with
committees either.
   

You mean with Forrest? Or with Maven?

maven of course:

http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=4475

I think you make good points about process (the ASF can be quite
slow-moving and more than a little formal in some respects), but
somehow my perspective on the examples you provided is quite
different...
   

What does that mean? That you're willing to wait around and I'm not? I
don't mind doing some work. I just don't want to be crippled by
committee.
I am not sure what that means, but certainly not that you're not willing to
wait nor willing to work. I'll be happy to assert you do a lot more work
around the ASF than me, and your patience has also been tested on various
items a lot more than has mine.
I guess all I meant to point out is that I don't feel like I'm being 
crippled
by a committee.

cheers!

- LSD



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