Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>> There seems to be a persistent delusion that
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is where incubation happens.
>
> That is perjorative. Want to start again?
I just spent a considerable amount of time going through
all the podling status pages, and there's a certain..
lack of uniformity about them. I've attached the results.
The status pages don't really have check-off points for
at least two of the graduation criteria: diversity and
'has released something.' I inferred release information
where I could easily do so. Crude, so don't expect too
much of it; just meant to be a high-level skim.
There are some podlings which have been there for years
but haven't checked everything off yet; there are others
which have been there for only a few months and *have* finished
them. Worse, there are some that have made releases while
the IP issues -- according to the status page -- are still
in doubt.
(On a side note: To be perfectly frank, it makes me cringe
to see this horribly effort-intensive and error-prone process
being used by the ASF. IMHO, all this stuff should be
regularised and normalised and maintained via Web forms. If
I don't get shouted down, maybe I'll work on that. ;-)
The result is that I'm not the least bit surprised that
there's so much inclarity about just what the hell is
going on in the incubator. And that's not pejorative,
Noel, that's an observation of something I consider to
be a serious problem, and that I think we should try
to fix (assuming others think it's a problem as well).
--
#ken P-)}
Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini http://Ken.Coar.Org/
Author, developer, opinionist http://Apache-Server.Com/
"Millennium hand and shrimp!"
1. Abdera:
Mentors: Garrett Rooney, Paul Querna
Started: July 2006
Incomplete: Identification, Interim Responsibility, Copyright
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
2. ActiveMQ:
Mentors: Jason van Zyl, James Strachan, Noel Bergman
Started: November 2005
Incomplete: Nothing
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 2
3. ADF Faces:
Mentors: Craig McClanahan
Started: March 2006
Incomplete: Distribution Rights, Active Committers
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
4. Agila:
Mentors: Geir Magnusson, Jr
Started: September 2004
Incomplete: Copyright, Committers
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
5. AltRMI: RETIRED NOVEMBER 2006
Releases: Unknown
6. Cayenne:
Mentors: Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney
Started: March 2006
Incomplete: Nothing
Diverity: Unknown
Releases: 1
7. CXF (CeltixFire):
Mentors: Jim Jagielski, James Strachan, Peter Royal
Started: July 2006
Incomplete: Everything
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
8. Felix:
Mentors: Alex Karasulu, Upayavira
Started: February 2006
Incomplete: Nothing
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
9. FtpServer:
Mentors: Paul Hammant, Nicola Ken Barozzi
Started: April 2006
Incomplete: Identity, Interim Responsibility, Copyright
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
10. Graffito:
Mentors: Raphael Luta, Jukka Zitting
Started: September 2004
Incomplete: Identity
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
11. Harmony:
Mentors: Noel Bergman, Geir Magnusson Jr, Stefano Mazzocchi, Sam Ruby,
Leo Simons, Davanum Srinivas
Started: May 2005
Incomplete: Nothing
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
12. Heraldry:
Mentors: Ben Laurie, Paul Querna, Ted Leung
Started: August 2006
Incomplete: Identity, Copyright, Distribution, Committers, Infrastructure
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
13. Ivy:
Mentors: Antoine Levy-Lambert, Sylvain Wallez, Steve Loughran,
Stefan Bodewig
Started: November 2006
Incomplete: Interim, Copyright, Distribution Rights, Committers,
Infrastructure
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
14. JuiCE:
Mentors: Berin Lautenbach
Started: April 1004
Incomplete: Copyright, Distribution Rights, Committers
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
15. Log4net:
Mentors: Mark Womack
Started: January 2004
Incomplete: Identity, Committers
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 1
16. Log4php
Mentors: Mark Womack
Started: January 2004
Incomplete: Identity, Distribution Rights, Infrastructure
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
17. Lokahi:
Mentors: William Rowe Jr, Yoav Shapira
Started: January 2006
Incomplete: Identity, Interim, Copyright, Distribution, Committers,
Infrastructure
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
18. Lucene4c:
Mentors: Erik Hatcher
Started: Unknown
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
19. Lucene.Net:
Mentors: Erik Hatcher
Started: Unknown
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
20. mod_ftp:
Mentors: Jim Jagielski
Started: August 2005
Incomplete: None
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
21. Ode:
Mentors: Paul Fremantle, Geir Magnusson Jr, Davanum Srinivas,
James Strachan
Started: February 2006
Incomplete: Unknown
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
22. OFBiz:
Mentors: David Welton, Yoav Shapira, J Aaron Farr
Started: February 2006
Incomplete: Nothing
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 2
23. OpenEJB:
Mentors: Brett Porter, Jason van Zyl, Henri Yandel
Started: July 2006
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
24. OpenJPA:
Mentors: Geir Magnusson Jr, Eddie O'Neil, Brian McAllister
Started: April 2006
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
25. Qpid:
Mentors: James Strachan, Cliff Schmidt, Paul Fremantle
Started: August 2006
Incomplete: Identity, Interim, Copyright, Distribution
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
26. Roller:
Mentors: Sam Ruby, Henri Yandell
Started: January 2006
Incomplete: Copyright, Distribution, Infrastructure
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 1
27. ServiceMix:
Mentors: Brett Porter, James Strachan, Jason van Zyl
Started: March 2006
Incomplete: None
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
28. Solr:
Mentors: Doug Cutting, Erik Hatcher, Ian Holsman (emeritus)
Started: April 2006
Incomplete: None
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
29. stdcxx:
Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Ben Laurie, William A Rowe Jr
Started: May 2005
Incomplete: Identity, Interim, Copyright
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 2
30. Synapse:
Mentors: Glen Daniels, Davanum Srinivas, Sanjiva Weerawarana
Started: August 2005
Incomplete: None
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 2
31. TSIK:
Mentors: Davanum Srinivas, Sanjiva Weerawarana, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
Started: May 2005
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
32. Tuscany:
Mentors: Unknown
Started: December 2005
Incomplete: None
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 2
33. UIMA:
Mentors: Ken Coar, Sam Ruby
Started: October 2006
Incomplete: Identity, Copyright, Distribution
Diversity: No
Releases: No
34. wadi:
Mentors: Geir Magnusson Jr, James Strachan
Started: Unknown
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
35. Wicket:
Mentors: Bertrand Delacretaz, Alex Karasulu, Upayavira, Sylvain Wallez
Started: August 2006
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
36. Woden:
Mentors: Paul Fremantle, Davanum Srinivas, Sanjiva Weerawarana
Started: March 2005
Incomplete: Identity, Interim, Copyright, Distribution
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: 5
37. WSRP4J:
Mentors: Sam Ruby, Davanum Srinivas
Started: July 2003
Incomplete: None
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
38. XAP:
Mentors: Robert Burrell Donkin, Cliff Schmidt, Susan Wu
Started: June 1006
Incomplete: All
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
39. Yoko:
Mentors: Ken Coar, Geir Magnusson Jr, James Strachan
Started: January 1006
Incomplete: Unknown
Diversity: Unknown
Releases: Unknown
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