By joining the foundation, we would hope that at least some of the project volunteers willl go on to become Members, and accept responsibility for the Foundation. But, up front, I'm not sure that we are communicating our implicit hope that every committer will become a Member, and that we all share responsiblity for the Foundation.
That was communicated very clearly by our mentors when we started discussing whether we wanted to incubate, and it is also imo pretty clear from reading the documents about Apache, incubation, etc. What triggered me to write a response earlier in the first place however, was the negative vibe that pulsated from the message. Does Apache have grave problems finding enough volunteers? Is it felt too many projects incubated without trying to contribute to the 'greater cause'? Or is it a matter of new incubators not being humble enough when expressing their views? To get back to the project level again: of course, when people use your project it is clear that you hope at least some of them will actively contribute to the project so that they help it improve. That's how open source works. Surely the average committer of projects that start incubating at Apache understand this principle, and understand that Apache works with volunteers in the same fashion. I guess you *could* stress more that joining ASF is not a free lunch. However, rather than this atmosphere of deterrence that can be seen in this email and others, why not try to get a more positive message across? 'Hey, great you want to join this fabulous club, let us make the best of it, looking forward to working together with you blah blah'. Eelco --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
