Actually TLP was the plan from the beginning, the main reason being that Cayenne was an existing open source project with a working meritocratic self-management since the inception in 2001. In the ASF structure this maps best to a TLP with its own PMC.

Also while we have a great working relationship with some folks from DB community, there is no committer overlap at the moment. So that will make it a pure umbrella project just because Cayenne also happens to deal with DB access.

Andrus

P.S. This reminds me of something that I should've put in my original email - I'd like to thank DB PMC (and especially Jean) for all the work helping us with various incubation aspects :-)


On Dec 1, 2006, at 6:26 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
Hi,
Cool.  Can you please refresh my memory on why Cayenne wants to be a
TLP now, as opposed to a project under the DB PMC (its original
sponsor)?

Yoav

On 12/1/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Apache Cayenne community just voted to request graduation from the
Incubator as a TLP [1]. The text of the proposed board resolution
(adopted from iBatis graduation resolution) is included below. Other
project related links are also shown below - [2], [3]. The following
people cast +1 votes:

   Andrus Adamchik (PPMC)
   Craig Russell
   Malcolm Edgar (committer)
   Matt Kerr
   Tore Halset (PPMC)
   Ari Maniatis
   Bill Dudney (PPMC)
   Michael Gentry (PPMC)
   Mike Kienenberger (PPMC)
   Jean T. Anderson (PPMC / Incubator PMC)
   Kevin Menard (committer)
   Jason Dwyer


I am asking for a vote of the Incubator PMC on graduation of Cayenne
that is conditional on the board's approval of a TLP for that
purpose. Please cast your votes.

[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-cayenne-dev/
200612.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] %3e
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/cayenne/
[3] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/cayenne.html

Andrus

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Apache Cayenne developers have voted to request the ASF Board to
establish
Cayenne as a Top Level Project at the ASF. Here is the text of the
suggested
resolution:

        WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
        interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
        Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
        Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to object-relational mapping (ORM)
        and remoting services, for distribution at no charge to the
public.

        NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Cayenne PMC", be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and
        be it further

        RESOLVED, that the Apache Cayenne PMC be and hereby is
        responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
        related to the Cayenne Object Relational Framework and tools,
based on software licensed to the Foundation; and be it further

RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Cayenne" be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
        Apache Cayenne PMC, and to have primary responsibility for
        management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
        of the Apache Cayenne PMC; and be it further

        RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
        hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
        Apache Cayenne PMC:

          Andrus Adamchik ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
          Bill Dudney ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
          Michael Gentry ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
          Tore Halset ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
          Mike Kienenberger  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Andrus Adamchik be and hereby is appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
        Cayenne, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
direction
        of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation
        until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
        further

RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Cayenne PMC be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the incubating
        Apache Cayenne project; and be it further

RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the incubating
        Apache Cayenne project encumbered upon the incubator PMC be
        hereafter discharged.


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