On 17/03/07, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But times change.  Apparently now people think that since the
Incubator PMC has binding votes on podling releases, then these things
*are* indeed official releases, providing both the usual legal
protections to PMC members who voted for it, and assurance to
downstream users that things like code provenance have already been
vetted.

Well, what is the IPMC checking for, if not the above?

If we buy into this philosophy, then a restriction on
publishing artifacts to p.a.o/dist and the mirrors, and having a
separate incubator repository for them, are ridiculous and should be
removed.

Which appears to me to be the point of the discussion & vote...

My grumpiness is over the fact that *only* removing these two
restrictions only goes half way.  If podlings can create official ASF
releases, then they should also not be subject to any restrictions
like "-incubating" in artifact names or version numbers.  They are
either official releases or not.  They can be relied upon by
downstream users or they cannot.  If we're going to go this direction,
go *all* the way, and erase any distinction between a podling release
and a TLP release, since we would be claiming that there is no legal
difference between them, nor any potential concern for downstream
users about code provenance.  Anything in between (such as only doing
what the vote proposes) leaves us sending totally confusing mixed
messages.

Well, I'm not sure that the current situation isn't itself "sending
totally confusing mixed messages", but I'd have thought that one-step
at a time is enough!

/Gwyn
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