Endre Stølsvik wrote:
> Thilo Goetz wrote:
> > Make it absolutely clear that the diversity of the community
> > will be judged by the IPMC based on the overall conduct of
> > the project, mailing list, commit activity etc.
I'm not sure that "diversity" and "conduct" are really mapping that way. A
non-diverse community can conduct itself properly and well, but still not be
diverse. And although conduct is important, we do place value on demonstrated
diversity, as well. I'm afraid that we can give you examples of where one or
the other was present, but arguably not both, and we've had to deal with the
consequences later. So we all try to learn from prior experiences, and apply
that in our current and future judgments.
> One obvious problem with such approaches is that the criteria will
> become very unevenly/unfairly applied. Some projects might just "slip
> past" with very little scrutiny, while others suddenly rack up a lot
> of discussion
That's life. In the end, as much as we may attempt to quantify some notions,
votes really come down to the HUMAN and SUBJECTIVE judgment of the Incubator
PMC Members. Hopefully, we all agree that these are people who have earned the
right to make those judgments, and do so in all sincerity, even if a mistake is
made from time to time. The Incubator PMC is looking after the best and long
term interests of the ASF and each of our Incubating projects. We want each
and every one to succeed. If we feel that QPid, or any other project, is best
served by building diveristy, that iss our collective best judgment of what is
important and helpful.
The rules that I want to see are those that support human judgment, not rules
that make the judgments for us.
--- Noel
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