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Martijn Dashorst wrote: | +1 | | On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> Hi, |> |> I'd like to ask for a vote on Justin's proposal below, to change the |> "Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list.." paragraph at |> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html . |> |> There were lots of +1s in the original thread, and a minor concern |> that this does not explicitely that 3 +1 votes from Incubator PMC |> members are required. |> |> That concern is addressed by the text that follows this paragraph on |> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html: |> |>> Only votes cast by Incubator PMC members are binding, but votes by the PPMC are |>> very important. The entire PPMC should show support for the nominee. If the vote is |>> positive (three or more binding +1 votes and no binding -1 votes), the proposer... |> So I think Justin's proposal is good to go - please cast your votes, |> so that we can clarify this and move on. |> |> -Bertrand |> |> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Justin Erenkrantz |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |>> Currently on http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html, we have: |>> --- |>> Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the |>> Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the |>> vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the |>> podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best |>> practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer |>> calls a vote on the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the |>> discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and |>> vote threads by the PPMC. The Incubator vote is done even if there are |>> three +1 votes from Incubator PMC members during the PPMC vote, in |>> order to give all Incubator PMC members a chance to express their |>> support or disapproval after seeing the PPMC discussion and vote |>> results. Note that only the Incubator PMC members can see the |>> Incubator private discussion, and the podling's Mentors should review |>> all Incubator PMC feedback with the PPMC. Moreover, only Apache |>> members may review the private PPMC list (this is normally not an |>> issue since most Incubator PMC members are Apache members). |>> --- |>> |>> I'd like to make the suggestion that we alter this to: |>> --- |>> Vote on the podling's private (PPMC) list, with notice posted to the |>> Incubator private list. The notice is a separate email forwarding the |>> vote email with a cover statement that this vote is underway on the |>> podling's private list. Many consider this approach to be best |>> practice. After completing the vote on the PPMC list, the proposer |>> *sends a note to* the Incubator PMC private list, summarizing the |>> discussion and vote, with a reference to the archived discussion and |>> vote threads by the PPMC. *Any member of the Incubator PMC can ACK |>> the receipt of the vote. This starts a 72-hour window for lazy |>> consensus. After 72 hours and no requests by any Incubator PMC member |>> for a full vote by the Incubator PMC, the committer request is |>> approved by the Incubator PMC and the PPMC can start the committer |>> invitation process.* |>> --- |>> |>> This intentionally follows the procedure for adding a PMC member wrt |>> full ASF board. I like the concept of expanding this for committers |>> as well for Incubation, so there. I don't like needless 'dual |>> voting', but I do want the IPMC to have the chance to execute |>> oversight. |>> |>> WDYT? -- justin |> --------------------------------------------------------------------- |> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> |> | | | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Cygwin) iD8DBQFIX4W5gNg6eWEDv1kRAgR6AJ44JfQm/Fw4tLlcziLNMiQUIZRatwCfU2H7 2hhRwZXv1mUmsnfd6y6vAWw= =xfO0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
