On 12/1/2010 17:56, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: > Hey Joe, > >>> >>> Hrm, umm, so what's the difference between this, and oh I don't know, >>> some other library I pick up as a TLP off Google code who claims their >>> source is ASLv2 licensed? I have no guarantee over there that the license >>> issues are resolved either, yet we do that all the time over here in >>> Apache? >>> >>> So, I don't agree with your point. >> >> The major issues with liability are always tied up in who releases stuff. We >> aren't all that liable for code we are redistributing from someone else's >> release. But we are liable for releasing code that is only being otherwise >> distributed out of our svn repo. >> >> Don't believe the remarks of Niclas and others who live in countries where >> all copyright infringement violators are subject to public stonings. In the >> US damages are assessed based on how many times and for what purpose those >> infringements are actually done. > > I hear ya, and I believe you have way more experience in this particular area > than I do. I'm just saying that it would be nice if we could eat our own dog > food in this particular accord, otherwise, what's the Incubator other than an > Apache-branded area of code that's subject to *even stricter* guises. If you > what you say is true, then it would seem to me that projects would benefit > then from going to Google Code first, saying they are ASLv2 over there, and > then being included over here in Apache projects (in source or binary form) > -- they wouldn't be subject to the same scrutiny that our Incubator podlings > are.
Oh but they are. I'm a committer on the new OpenNLP incubator project that's just starting up. It's Apache licensed, but that saves us nothing. We're doing a code grant, ICLAs from all current and previous contributors, etc etc, the whole nine yards. The fact that the code is already under the Apache license makes hardly any difference. --Thilo > > But OTOH, it would be nice if we could reward Incubator podlings for choosing > to do it the "Apache Way" to begin with by making some sort of easier > mechanism for their code to be included in other Apache projects, right? > After all the discussion about making it easier on podlings, I would hope we > are striving to make this the reality. > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senior Computer Scientist > NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA > Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 > Email: [email protected] > WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department > University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
