At first glance, I don't see a serious risk of conflict with the proposed Apache Howl podling and the pre-existing OW2 HOWL project.

First and most importantly, the two software products sound quite different. I'm presuming this is correct, and that any relevant consumer using HOWL to review their server's logs wouldn't be confused by the new release of Howl. If there *is* a conflict with some other software product that *is* similar in functionality to what Apache Howl would be, then it would be a problem.

Separately, OW2's HOWL doesn't seem to be actively maintained, meaning it's less likely anyone would confuse the two software products. Less importantly is the point that they call it "HOWL", and we would presumably call our future product "Apache Howl".

Note that this does not mean there aren't potential trademark issues from the legal perspective. Using many English words as a product name is likely to be using someone's software trademark somewhere. But in terms of our risk management, it's most important if the use is for a similar kind of software, or something that would otherwise lead to consumer confusion. Plus, a key way we differentiate Apache projects is by ensuring their primary branding includes the word "Apache". 8-)

If the IPMC or the potential podling have further trademark related questions, please email the trademarks@ (privately archived) mailing list for further advice.

Personally, I don't see how "Howl" applies to big data projects, but, hey, my opinion doesn't matter there, and I do like the sound of it.

And thanks for thinking about the branding up front!

- Shane Curcuru
  VP, Brand Management, The Apache Software Foundation
  http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks

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