I think the 'Known Risks' section in the proposal enumerates that pretty clearly, so I won't repeat it.
I don't know why anyone would take exception to it be included in the Incubator. It seems like a good fit, as long as the stated known risks are addressed during incubation. My statements were meant to speak to the folks who think otherwise, as a reasonable compromise (assuming Bill's stance, and anyone who is quietly in agreement, is to not allow it into the Incubator). I don't think my vote counts for much, but I'm a +1. ;) Thanks, Troy On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@apache.org> wrote: > On 24/02/2011 23:11, Troy Howard wrote: >> >> In my opinion, a reasonable compromise would be to set it as a project >> goal to reduce corporate dependency on the committers list. > > I'm really confused where this is coming from. The goal of incubation is to > generate sufficient diversity in contributions to ensure that the community > is viable even with the departure of a number of active parties. > > This proposal is coming *into* the incubator with more diversity than is > typically required to graduate (not that I'm suggesting there are shortcuts > for incubation here). > > Why on earth is having this diversity being seen as a problem? > > Nobody has explained that to me yet and unless someone does so I, as a > mentor, am going to ask the champion to call the vote. > > Ross > >> >> I would take that so far as to treat it as a bug, place an issue in >> JIRA to that effect, and schedule a date/version for the issue to be >> resolved. This will remind everyone to remain focused on attracting a >> diverse set of independent individuals, without corporate attachment, >> as contributors and eventually as committers. >> >> That said, they are more likely to attract that community as an Apache >> Incubator Podling. I would make resolution of the JIRA issue a >> blocking task to graduation however. Resolving these kinds of issues >> is sort of the point of the Incubator, correct? >> >> Thanks, >> Troy >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Craig L Russell >> <craig.russ...@oracle.com> wrote: >>> >>> I'm looking forward to a vote on this proposal. >>> >>> I've read the thread and I think it's good to know **up front** that >>> there >>> are going to be corporate contributions, not just from one corporation. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Ate Douma wrote: >>> >>>> I would like to propose the Apache Rave project to the Incubator PMC. >>>> Our draft proposal is appended to the end of this email and is available >>>> at: >>>> >>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/RaveProposal >>>> >>>> The Apache Rave project proposal is a joined effort of Hippo, the MITRE >>>> Corporation, the Open Gateway Computing Environments project (OGCE), the >>>> SURFnet SURFConext Portal project, OSS Watch, and several other >>>> individuals. >>>> >>>> == Abstract == >>>> >>>> Apache Rave is A new WEb And SOcial Mashup Engine. It will provide an >>>> out-of- the-box as well as an extendible lightweight Java platform to >>>> host, >>>> serve and aggregate (Open)Social Gadgets and services through a highly >>>> customizable and Web 2.0 friendly front-end. Rave is targeted as engine >>>> for >>>> internet and intranet portals and as building block to provide >>>> context-aware >>>> personalization and collaboration features for multi-site/multi-channel >>>> (mobile) oriented and content driven websites and (social) network >>>> oriented >>>> services and platforms. For the OpenSocial container and services the >>>> (Java) >>>> Apache Shindig will be integrated. At a later stage further >>>> generalization >>>> is envisioned to also transparently support W3C Widgets using Apache >>>> Wookie. >>>> >>> >>> Craig L Russell >>> Architect, Oracle >>> http://db.apache.org/jdo >>> 408 276-5638 mailto:craig.russ...@oracle.com >>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig L Russell >>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation >>> Chair, OpenJPA PMC >>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
