Having gone through project renames from Jsecurity to Ki to Shiro, I
can attest that it's much less painful to change the name sooner
rather than later. If there's even an indication that a
naming/trademark conflict may occur, it almost certainly will at some
point. I realize this is not a naming suggestion thread, but "Apache
Holler" would stay with the theme and might be easy to get accepted.

Kalle


On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> On Mar 8, 2011, at 12:01 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Alan Gates <ga...@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We are taking it seriously.  We (Howl mentors and committers) discussed
>>> this and the consensus seemed to be we wanted to stay with the name if
>>> possible.  The feedback on this list was mixed, with many for changing it
>>> and some not worried about it.  So we wanted to stick with it for now and
>>> see how it went.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not here to create a problem for y'all. Keep in mind I +1'd the proposal
>> even though I had some reservations about all of you being Yahoo'ers. You
>> can work on that in the incubator - no problem to diversify while
>> incubating.
>
> I think the majority of those voting +1 for incubation wanted the name 
> changed based on the concerns that were raised.  I would be concerned about a 
> release being done as howl while in the incubator and would certainly vote -1 
> to leaving it unless a) it is definitely determined that no trademark 
> conflicts exist (this may require contacting the other parties and getting 
> their permission) or b) the name is changed to something that doesn't have 
> similar conflicts.
>
> Ralph
>
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