(continuing a conversation which is cross-posted to general@incubator and vxquery-dev@incubator...)
Hi VXQuery developers, It's been a month since this exchange about how to succeed in the Incubator has passed: On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Marvin Humphrey <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Till Westmann <t...@westmann.org> wrote: >> Yes, release votes are one point, another point is that we could probably >> avoid asking for votes for more than one RC on general@i.a.o if we had more >> ASF-experienced eyes looking at it on the dev list. >> >> Wrt to the other points you mentioned, collaboration seems generally >> effective (albeit not always on the list), technical infrastructure is not a >> big problem, and most things I learn about ASF culture I learn from >> discussions on general@i.a.o. >> >> I think that the mentor activity that we could benefit from is the >> occasional benevolent hint on how to make things work more smoothly within >> the ASF. > > OK, I'll indulge, then[1]. :) > > I think you're right to prioritize getting a release out the door. Releases > are important not just for the features, but also for regenerating the energy > around a product in the wider community. "Real artists ship." -- Steve Jobs > > Since you've made it as far as creating two release candidates, presumably > there is not anything structural (such as a stalled code grant) holding things > up. Here's where the two previous release candidate vote threads ended: > > http://markmail.org/message/d6r7ucnymzlzun62 > http://markmail.org/message/fmy7zw6gmm2ahozp > > Getting a first incubating release out can be labor-intensive and the process > is sometimes frustrating. Wrangling IPMC votes is a hassle, and it gets > harder the longer a podling is incubation because Mentors, like all > open-source contributors, come and go. Even for podling contributors who are > truly voracious consumers of Apache documentation, it's hard to produce a > release candidate which encounters no objections from IPMC members. > > Nevertheless, dozens of other podlings have bulled their way through this > phase. The IPMC may not be as efficient or as coherent as we would like it to > be; things may not go "smoothly". However, if there is sufficient energy > behind VXQuery (and no legal blockers with regards to the code base), your > release *will* get through eventually. And while occasionally a podling will > have a Mentor who brings that kind of energy, that's not our expectation for > those who fill the Mentor role -- most often, it is the podling's core > contributors who must provide the push and sustain the momentum. > > Marvin Humphrey > > [1] We sometimes have problems where IPMC members who are not Mentors assigned > to a specific podling provide guidance which is at odds with what the > podling's Mentors have advised. Let's hope that the content of this mail > is suitably general and non-controversial. Since then, there have been a total of 4 commits and 4 messages to vxquery-dev. Let me be blunt: VXQuery needs to make an incubating release. Personally, I think it's important that we see one before your next quarterly report. Marvin Humphrey --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
