We definitely need a storm-user list as the existing google groups mailing
list for Storm is quite active. So we'll need to transition that over. I
agree on adding a storm-commits list and added it to the proposal.


On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Excited about Storm coming to Apache. Small comment about the mailing list,
> you may want to propose having:
> * storm-dev
> * storm-commits
> * storm-private (with moderated subscriptions)
>
> instead for starting into incubator.
>
> However, Storm has been a well known open source project, maybe it does
> valid to have storm-user from the beginning. But I think you may need
> storm-commits
> list to separate commits log from dev discussions.
> Mentors can chime in about this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Henry
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Nathan Marz <nat...@nathanmarz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I'd like to propose Storm to be an Apache Incubator project. After much
> > thought I believe this is the right next step for the project, and I look
> > forward to hearing everyone's thoughts and feedback!
> >
> > Here's a link to the proposal:
> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/StormProposal
> >
> > The proposal is also pasted below.
> >
> > -Nathan
> >
> >
> > = Storm Proposal =
> >
> > == Abstract ==
> >
> > Storm is a distributed, fault-tolerant, and high-performance realtime
> > computation system that provides strong guarantees on the processing of
> > data.
> >
> > == Proposal ==
> >
> > Storm is a distributed real-time computation system. Similar to how
> Hadoop
> > provides a set of general primitives for doing batch processing, Storm
> > provides a set of general primitives for doing real-time computation. Its
> > use cases span stream processing, distributed RPC, continuous
> computation,
> > and more. Storm has become a preferred technology for near-realtime
> > big-data processing by many organizations worldwide (see a partial list
> at
> > https://github.com/nathanmarz/storm/wiki/Powered-By). As an open source
> > project, Storm’s developer community has grown rapidly to 46 members.
> >
> > == Background ==
> >
> > The past decade has seen a revolution in data processing. MapReduce,
> > Hadoop, and related technologies have made it possible to store and
> process
> > data at scales previously unthinkable. Unfortunately, these data
> processing
> > technologies are not realtime systems, nor are they meant to be. The lack
> > of a "Hadoop of realtime" has become the biggest hole in the data
> > processing ecosystem. Storm fills that hole.
> >
> > Storm was initially developed and deployed at BackType in 2011. After 7
> > months of development BackType was acquired by Twitter in July 2011.
> Storm
> > was open sourced in September 2011.
> >
> > Storm has been under continuous development on its Github repository
> since
> > being open-sourced. It has undergone four major releases (0.5, 0.6, 0.7,
> > 0.8) and many minor ones.
> >
> > == Rationale ==
> >
> > Storm is a general platform for low-latency big-data processing. It is
> > complementary to the existing Apache projects, such as Hadoop. Many
> > applications are actually exploring using both Hadoop and Storm for
> > big-data processing. Bringing Storm into Apache is very beneficial to
> both
> > Apache community and Storm community.
> >
> > The rapid growth of Storm community is empowered by open source. We
> believe
> > the Apache foundation is a great fit as the long-term home for Storm, as
> it
> > provides an established process for community-driven development and
> > decision making by consensus. This is exactly the model we want for
> future
> > Storm development.
> >
> > == Initial Goals ==
> >
> >   * Move the existing codebase to Apache
> >   * Integrate with the Apache development process
> >   * Ensure all dependencies are compliant with Apache License version 2.0
> >   * Incremental development and releases per Apache guidelines
> >
> > == Current Status ==
> >
> > Storm has undergone four major releases (0.5, 0.6, 0.7, 0.8) and many
> minor
> > ones. Storm 0.9 is about to be released. Storm is being used in
> production
> > by over 50 organizations. Storm codebase is currently hosted at
> github.com
> > ,
> > which will seed the Apache git repository.
> >
> > === Meritocracy ===
> >
> > We plan to invest in supporting a meritocracy. We will discuss the
> > requirements in an open forum. Several companies have already expressed
> > interest in this project, and we intend to invite additional developers
> to
> > participate. We will encourage and monitor community participation so
> that
> > privileges can be extended to those that contribute.
> >
> > === Community ===
> >
> > The need for a low-latency big-data processing platform in the open
> source
> > is tremendous. Storm is currently being used by at least 50 organizations
> > worldwide (see https://github.com/nathanmarz/storm/wiki/Powered-By), and
> > is
> > the most starred Java project on Github. By bringing Storm into Apache,
> we
> > believe that the community will grow even bigger.
> >
> > === Core Developers ===
> >
> > Storm was started by Nathan Marz at BackType, and now has developers from
> > Yahoo!, Microsoft, Alibaba, Infochimps, and many other companies.
> >
> > === Alignment ===
> >
> > In the big-data processing ecosystem, Storm is a very popular low-latency
> > platform, while Hadoop is the primary platform for batch processing. We
> > believe that it will help the further growth of big-data community by
> > having Hadoop and Storm aligned within Apache foundation. The alignment
> is
> > also beneficial to other Apache communities (such as Zookeeper, Thrift,
> > Mesos). We could include additional sub-projects, Storm-on-YARN and
> > Storm-on-Mesos, in the near future.
> >
> > == Known Risks ==
> >
> > === Orphaned Products ===
> >
> > The risk of the Storm project being abandoned is minimal. There are at
> > least 50 organizations (Twitter, Yahoo!, Microsoft, Groupon, Baidu,
> > Alibaba, Alipay, Taobao, PARC, RocketFuel etc) are highly incentivized to
> > continue development. Many of these organizations have built critical
> > business applications upon Storm, and have devoted significant internal
> > infrastructure investment in Storm.
> >
> > === Inexperience with Open Source ===
> >
> > Storm has existed as a healthy open source project for several years.
> > During that time, we have curated an open-source community successfully,
> > attracting over 40 developers from a diverse group of companies including
> > Twitter, Yahoo!, and Alibaba.
> >
> > === Homogenous Developers ===
> >
> > The initial committers are employed by large companies (including
> Twitter,
> > Yahoo!, Alibaba, Microsoft) and well-funded startups. Storm has an active
> > community of developers, and we are committed to recruiting additional
> > committers based on their contributions to the project.
> >
> > === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
> >
> > It is expected that Storm development will occur on both salaried time
> and
> > on volunteer time, after hours. The majority of initial committers are
> paid
> > by their employer to contribute to this project. However, they are all
> > passionate about the project, and we are confident that the project will
> > continue even if no salaried developers contribute to the project. We are
> > committed to recruiting additional committers including non-salaried
> > developers.
> >
> > === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
> >
> > As mentioned in the Alignment section, Storm is closely integrated with
> > Hadoop,
> > Zookeeper, Thrift, YARN and Mesos in a numerous ways. We look forward to
> > collaborating with those communities, as well as other Apache communities
> > (including Apache S4 which focuses on stateful low-latency processing).
> >
> > === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
> >
> > Storm is already a healthy and well known open source project. This
> > proposal is not for the purpose of generating publicity. Rather, the
> > primary benefits to joining Apache are those outlined in the Rationale
> > section.
> >
> > == Documentation ==
> >
> > The reader will find these websites highly relevant:
> >
> >   * Storm website: http://storm-project.net
> >   * Storm documentation: https://github.com/nathanmarz/storm/wiki
> >   * Codebase: https://github.com/nathanmarz/storm
> >   * User group: https://groups.google.com/group/storm-user
> >
> > == Source and Intellectual Property Submission Plan ==
> >
> > The Storm codebase is currently hosted on Github:
> > https://github.com/nathanmarz/storm.
> >
> > This is the exact codebase that we would migrate to the Apache
> foundation.
> >
> > The Storm source code is currently licensed under Eclipse Public License
> > Version 1.0. Some source code was contributed under a contributor
> agreement
> > based on the Sun contributor agreement (v1.5). More recent code has been
> > contributed under an Apache style agreement (see
> > https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/133901206/storm-apache-style-cla.txt
> ).
> >
> > Upon entering Apache, Storm will migrate to an Apache License 2.0 with
> all
> > contributions licensed to the Apache Foundation. In certain cases where
> > individuals or organizations hold copyright, we will ensure they grant a
> > license to the Apache Foundation. Going forward, all commits will be
> > licensed directly to the Apache foundation through our signed Individual
> > Contributor License Agreements for all committers on the project.
> >
> > Yahoo! is also willing to move Storm-on-YARN code from github to be a
> > subproject of Apache Storm project. Storm-on-YARN is currently licensed
> > under Apache License 2.0 and receive contribution under Apache style CLA.
> > Upon entering Apache, Yahoo! will sign over copyright to Apache
> foundation.
> >
> > == External Dependencies ==
> >
> > To the best of our knowledge, all of Storm dependencies (except 0MQ/JMQ)
> > are distributed under Apache compatible licenses. Upon acceptance to the
> > incubator, we would begin a thorough analysis of all transitive
> > dependencies to verify this fact and introduce license checking into the
> > build and release process (for instance integrating Apache Rat).
> >
> > Storm has used 0MQ and JMQ as the default mechanism for internal
> messaging
> > layer, and 0MQ/JMQ is licensed under GNU Lesser General Public License.
> > Recently, we have made Storm messaging layer pluggable, and plan to use
> > Netty (which is licensed under Apache License v2) as our default
> messaging
> > plugin (while keep 0MQ as an optional plugin).
> >
> > == Cryptography ==
> >
> > We do not expect Storm to be a controlled export item due to the use of
> > encryption.
> >
> > Storm enable encryptions via 2 plugins:
> >
> >   * SASL authentication plugins … Currently, we have provide “no-op”
> > authentication and digest authentication. In near future, we will
> introduce
> > Kerberos authentication.
> >   * Tuple payload serialization plugins … Storm provides plugins for
> > plain-object serialization and blowfish encryption.
> >
> > == Required Resources ==
> >
> > === Mailing lists ===
> >
> > * storm-user
> > * storm-dev
> > * storm-private (with moderated subscriptions)
> >
> > === Subversion Directory ===
> >
> > Git is the preferred source control system: git://git.apache.org/storm
> >
> > === Issue Tracking ===
> >
> > JIRA Storm (STORM)
> >
> > == Initial Committers ==
> >
> >   * Nathan Marz <nathan at nathanmarz dot com>
> >   * James Xu <xumingmingv at gmail dot com>
> >   * Jason Jackson <jason at cvk dot ca>
> >   * Andy Feng <afeng at yahoo-inc dot com>
> >   * Flip Kromer  <flip at infochimps dot com>
> >   * David Lao <davidlao at microsoft dot com>
> >   * P. Taylor Goetz <ptgoetz at gmail dot com>
> >
> > == Affiliations ==
> >
> >   * Nathan Marz - Nathan’s Startup
> >   * James Xu - Alibaba
> >   * Jason Jackson - Twitter
> >   * Andy Feng - Yahoo!
> >   * Flip Kromer - Infochimps
> >   * David Lao - Microsoft
> >   * P. Taylor Goetz - Health Market Science
> >
> > == Sponsors ==
> >
> > === Champion ===
> >
> >   * Doug Cutting  <cutting at apache dot org>
> >
> > === Nominated Mentors ===
> >
> >  * Ted Dunning <tdunning at maprtech.com>
> >  * Arvind Prabhaker <arvind at apache dot org>
> >  * Devaraj Das <ddas at hortonworks dot com>
> >
> > === Sponsoring Entity ===
> >
> > The Apache Incubator
> >
>



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