On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Andy Konwinski <andykonwin...@gmail.com> wrote: > When a mature open source project enters the incubator, it has to move > mailing lists from its existing solution (which for Spark was Google > Groups) to the apache incubator lists. This was a painful move for Spark > since many devs found the Google groups mailing list interface easier to > use, but I understand that as Apache, we value having all of our projects' > bits live on our own Apache infra.
Its that plus the requirement that we have a guaranteed archives of our public conversations. > However, as Apache, we don't ask the project to move mailing lists only > once, we ask them to move twice: once when entering the incubator and once > at graduation. Though the second move is easier, it is still painful in our > case since (unless I'm missing something) you can't migrate a nabble > mailing list from the @incubator.apache.org to @apache.org and so now the > history of our projects email archives will be spread out over three > different locations. > > Maybe other incubator projects haven't found the 2nd move to be very > painful and maybe search engines make this not a very big deal. Personally, I don't see it as a big deal, but you're raising a vaild point. That said, there's a very basic value in clearly delineating incubating projects from TLP ones. This applies not all publicly visible bits of identification: web sites, version IDs, ML addresses, etc. I believe that keeping the 'incubator' moniker part of everything that a user may see helps to avoid confusion with a much bigger community: a community of ASF observers. As such, it feels like a reasonable price to pay. Just my 2c. Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org