On Jan 21, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> Perhaps there are one or two good ideas in the proposals, but change does >> not need to be as jarring. > > I hope that the Incubator can make the best of those opportunities. > >> For example the IPMC ought to confirm with >> mentors if they are still being a mentor to a particular podling. There can >> be many reasons why not and we just need to ask. It could be that the >> podling never achieved a visible development community. > > It's possible to automate pinging Mentors who didn't sign off on podling > reports. A Python script could parse the last Incubator report (plus others > going back N months if we want richer historical info), then send one email > per podling to the podling's private list, CC'd to private@incubator. The > script could be run by the Report Manager or the Chair each month after the > report is filed. > >> Statements like shepherds dilute mentor responsibility are false. A shepherd >> provides a mechanism for the IPMC to review the Podling/Mentor relationship. >> This is something the IPMC needs to do when voting to graduate a podling. We >> should be ALL be doing shepherding work. > > I can see what Alan's getting at, though. Unless the podling is in trouble, > the podling contributors ought to be writing the report. The people who are > then best placed to give informed feedback on that report are the podling's > Mentors. But instead, the people who provide commentary on the state of the > podling community tend to be the shepherds, whose understanding is necessarily > more superficial. Doesn't that seem strange?
Yes and that may be a call for more informed *action* by the IPMC. Like connecting with the mentors and podling to find out where the community is if anywhere. There may be no there there. Regards, Dave > > Marvin Humphrey > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org