Not sure if your concern is diversity or scale, so I'll address both 
separately. If your concern is something else please be more explicit.

Graduation does not require diversity of the PMC. It requires that the project 
be run according to the Apache Way which includes being open to any viewpoint 
brought to the project, regardless of the source. Furthermore, the initial set 
of committers covers a wide range of contributing orgs (although we are all 
doing this with ASF hats).

Graduation does not require scale. Apache TLPs must be able to make a release. 
This boils down to at least three active PMC members.

As for going straight to TLP I agree. Sam did say this was a possibility but I 
believe he (rightly so) wants to ensure that the proposal is solid before 
asking the board and IPMC to consider this path. 

Ross

-----Original Message-----
From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman 
Shaposhnik
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:28 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Whimsy PMC

Apologies if this has been asked, but Rich's points got me thinking. As it 
stands, I'm not sure I can see how Whimsy can graduate without us squinting 
just so. Basically, I don't see a clear way for the community to grow much 
beyond the initial list of committers.

In a way, I'd rather see Whimsy got straight to TLP. I honestly see no point 
for it to go through the Incubator motions.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> Initial sketch placed on the wiki:
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/WhimsyProposal
>
> Anyone who is so inclined is welcome to edit the proposal directly.
>
> No urgency or timeframe in mind (other than preferably starting 
> sometime in 2015ish).  My current thinking is to follow in Steve's 
> footprints and go directly to TLP, but I'm starting a discussion here 
> (in Incubator) to see if there are any other thoughts on the matter.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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