On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > Seems like for the past two weeks I only have weekends to respond :-( > Apologies for the delay on this thread. > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > 1) The concept of a brand covering some artifact doesn't come into play >>> at >>> > all. Instead, there are two things that happen. The first is that the >>> PMC >>> > approves releases which defines each such release as an Apache release. >>> > The second process is that the ASF controls the use of its trademarks. >>> >>> The question is: do we have ASF-wide trademark guidelines or do >>> we allow each PMC to make those as they go. >>> >> >> Yes. We do have ASF-wide trademark guidelines and we also allow PMC's to >> have pretty broad latitude within those boundaries. The PMC definitely >> should not be making things up, but they do have a lot of responsibility >> for deciding what they don't like. > > I don't think I was clear: I understand that ASF has foundation-wide > trademark guidelines, what I was asking is: are we allowing PMCs > to put additional constraints on top of those.
Yes, off hand I know of two PMCs that have additional, or more rigid trademark guidelines in place. > >> How is the release policy not clear ( >> http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html#distribute-other-artifacts) when it >> says: >> >>All releases are in the form of the source materials needed to make changes >> > to the software >> >> >> >>And then it says >> >>In all such cases, the binary/bytecode package must have the same version >> number as the source release and may only add binary/bytecode files that >> are the result of compiling that version of the source code release. > > Right. So what happens to at least 4 different (and I do mean different) ways > of building Hadoop? Are these all different distributions? Do ALL of them > need to be blessed by PMC? > >> The Hadoop PMC is utterly free to produce a Hadoop RPM with Hadoop in it >> that corresponds to an Apache Hadoop release. Having project Foo produce a >> release of Bar, Baz and Pigdog is pretty far off the reservation, however. > > It is. But if they screw up packaging guidelines inadvertently and the > downstream > want to take matters in their own hands -- how is it "off the reservation"? > > Remember -- we're still talking producing binary packages from exact same > source release that PMC blessed -- just using different build and packaging > mechanics. > > Thanks, > Roman. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
