If the podling *has* cleared all IP, then I could see allowing it. But we certainly don't want improper IP residing in the Attic. These aren't Apache projects until graduation, so don't really belong. I can see releases strengthening the argument for archival.
Henri should be able to clarify. Cheers, -g On Sep 5, 2015 3:35 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > I recollect seeing a retiring podling with releases go to the attic. If > that is not correct or it was an exceptional case then thanks for the > correction. > > What would be done with domain names? The podling came in with the domain > name offtoolkit.org. What happens to that? > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The Attic is for Apache projects. Podlings are simply retired/removed. > >> On Sep 4, 2015 9:23 AM, "Dave Fisher" <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On Sep 3, 2015, at 5:12 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Rob, > >>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 7:56 AM Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 6:25 AM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> All, > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd like to bring to your attention the ODF Toolkit podling. > >>>>> > >>>>> This podling has been incubating for over 4 years now. Last month > they > >>>>> filed a report without mentor sign off, without any feedback on the > >>>> mailing > >>>>> list. They have remained partially active throughout the 4 years, > but > >>>> from > >>>>> what I can tell suffering a bit in community growth. I'd like to > seek > >>>>> input from the incubator on how to potentially resolve this and maybe > >> get > >>>>> help for this podling. > >>>>> > >>>>> John > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I am the mentor who did not sign off last month. You may have noticed > >>>> that the podling has been filing nearly identical reports for some > >>>> time now. I'd sum up accomplishments to date as: > >>>> > >>>> 1) We've done a few podling releases. > >>>> > >>>> 2) IP review is in good shape > >>>> > >>>> 3) Community gets along well, no significant frictions > >>>> > >>>> 4) Community has added new committers outside the original PPMC, but > >>>> has also lost its original corporate-sponsored developers. > >>>> > >>>> 5) The code is being used, as seen by incoming traffic on users list > >>>> and occasional patch submissions > >>> > >>> I have noticed that. Has the podling been made aware that the report > >>> shouldn't be a copy and paste, and that stagnating growth is probably > >> not a > >>> good sign? It would help to explain why their report wasn't signed off > >> on. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> These are all good steps towards graduation. However, the community > >>>> thinks, and I tend to agree, that the activity level is too low to > >>>> sustain a TLP. If we were able to attract another 2 or 3 active > >>>> developers we would be in great shape. As mentor I've given advice > >>>> when asked, and when I thought needed. But I'm not standing there > >>>> with a whip and a megaphone telling them what to do. I don't think > >>>> that makes a sustainable community. > >>>> > >>>> I don't think shuffling the code around within Apache, to another > >>>> project (or Podling) really solves anything. The Attic is one option, > >>>> but my guess is that would end the podling but not the (albeit small) > >>>> community. They would probably just set up on github and continue > >>>> with the same pace of activity, with a lighterweight process, outside > >>>> of Apache. So, personally, I don't think the Attic would be the death > >>>> of the ODF Toolkit. > >>> > >>> The attic should be considered only as a last stitch effort, all other > >>> attempts at resolving the podling have been tried and failed. > >> > >> Nothing stops anyone from forking the podling to another location. The > >> incubator would need to do something with the code. That would be to > put it > >> in the attic as an archive, as not maintained any longer. > >> > >> This is decision for the community such as it is to make. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Dave > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
