On Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 04:27PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > On 11/02/2015 03:57 PM, Patrick Hunt wrote: > > I see this (the release discussion threads you linked) as a semi-mature > > community that's well aligned. A number of folks responded to the request > > for discussion and said they were in favor. It was done on the ML in the > > open. What more do we want? I don't see anyone excluded and I'm sure if > > there was a new person looking to get involved they would have been > > welcomed into the discussion, no one is being turned away from what I can > > see. > > No one is being turned away, that I've noticed, but I really don't see > how anyone is supposed to follow along if they're not part of the team > already. I will say that the only Jira I've seen from outside recently > didn't exactly get a warm reception. [1] Not rejected, just radio silence. > > I'm also sad to see that being held up as a standard by other mentors. > My understanding is that projects should be attempting to create a > community that is open, and trying to self-perpetuate. Sure, you can't > do that if you turn people away actively - but you also can't do that by > having conversations offlist and having an opaque process that newcomers > can't follow along with. > > I'll say again - maybe my standards are improperly calibrated. If so, > and "not actively turning people away" is the standard we're going > for... that's disappointing as all heck.
I don't think your standards have became miscalibrated all of a sudden. These community principles are what being instilled on new podlings by many here. Hence I believe that a perceived new norm of "not actively turning people away" should be dealt with by the first the mentors and backed up by the whole incubation model, including shepherds. Cos > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-934 > -- > Joe Brockmeier > j...@zonker.net > Twitter: @jzb > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >
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