Alex has it right, and it's important to remember that the ASF never asks for copyright assignment of code; we only ask for an SGA grant or a voluntary submission from a contributor of ICLA signer. We only want a license to be able to ship the eventual Apache project under the Apache License v2.0.
The details on Apache source header policy, for posterity: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html - Shane Alex Harui wrote on 1/15/16 11:32 AM: > AIUI, copyrights never get re-assigned. There is a collective copyright > for the collective work, but each line of code is still owned by some > entity/person that contributed it. > > Copyright law apparently only allows the copyright owner or a person they > authorize to muck with copyright statements in headers, and since Apache > prefers that copyright notices go in the NOTICE file, it is a good thing > if every copyright owner is a committer so they can muck with the header > themselves. But for sure, in one case, I have gotten permission from the > copyright holder to make the changes since they did not want to be a > committer. > > The SGA grants permission for the code to be licensed under ALv2, so is > not fully required when the donated code base is already under ALv2. In > such a case it sort of provides a paper trail that the code base > participants/community are ok with moving the "home" of the code to ASF > repos. There is a recent thread on that. > > So, IMO, the only gotchas in this case are if the headers have this > individual's copyright in it and we want it moved to NOTICE. And if this > individual or his employer somehow tries to argue that they did not intend > to allow the contributions to be under ALv2 in the first place, or doesn't > want the ASF to be the new home for this code, which seems unlikely. > > HTH, > -Alex > > On 1/15/16, 5:21 AM, "Josh Elser" <josh.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks, Greg. >> >> I thought the whole point of this part of the process was that we could >> assign the copyright from the original contributors to the ASF - the thing >> that licenses wouldn't be covering. That's great that this isn't a >> sticking >> point, I'm just honestly a bit confused. >> On Jan 15, 2016 12:15 AM, "Greg Stein" <gst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Exactly ... just bring the work into the ASF under its ALv2 license. You >>> don't need permission from (all) contributors to use the software under >>> that license. That's *why* we have licenses! >>> >>> Rewriting the headers is a little trickier, though. I'd suggest a two >>> step >>> process: >>> >>> 1) bring in the code, but don't (yet) touch any of the license/copyright >>> headers in there >>> 2) ask legal-discuss what to do with the headers >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -g >>> >>> ps. I'd think: for any file jbnote touched, keep/push the existing >>> header >>> down and prepend the standard ASF header; all other untouched files, >>> replace any header with ours. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like the repo was placed under the Apache License long before >>> this >>>> individual contributed. So, IMO, if you are convinced this individual >>> and >>>> his employer knew his contributions were placed under the Apache >>> License >>>> you could gamble and accept his contributions. If you get an >>> objection >>>> later, you can delete and re-implement the contributions. >>>> >>>> My 2 cents, >>>> -Alex >>>> >>>> On 1/14/16, 10:45 AM, "Josh Elser" <els...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> (with my podling member hat on) >>>>> >>>>> We have a bit of a problem over in Slider with a code donation. Full >>>>> details can be found at >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLIDER-977 >>>>> >>>>> In short, an app-package (a modular chunk of code that Slider runs on >>>>> Apache Hadoop's YARN ) for Kafka was offered to be included in >>> Slider. >>>>> Slider would love to accept it. We've gotten IP clearance from all >>> but >>>>> one party who contributed to it. >>>>> >>>>> To the best of my knowledge, this individual contributed code to this >>>>> Kafka app-package and his company could also lay claim to his >>>>> contribution. He already had an ICLA on file, but no CCLA from his >>>>> company. >>>>> >>>>> Two months later, multiple pings on JIRA and even a personal email, >>> this >>>>> person seems to be AWOL. Given my understanding of the rules, we >>> can't >>>>> proceed because we don't have the ability to prove all potential >>>>> previous ownership of this codebase has been granted to the ASF. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice on how we could try to move this forward? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> - Josh >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
