On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote: > I've seen a few (recent) incubator votes that imply that there are two > separate, distinct votes: > one in the podling and one in the incubator general. And lots of questions > about binding votes > and carried-over votes and whose votes are counted. > > I'd like to suggest: > > There is one vote for a podling release candidate. The first phase of the > vote takes place on the podling dev list. > Anyone can vote. An affirmative vote by three PPMC members (including > mentors) is sufficient to start the second > phase, which takes place on the incubator general list. An individual's vote > can be changed any time during either > phase until the final vote is tallied. > > All votes are counted. Only IPMC member votes are binding. The final tally > counts affirmative, neutral, and > negative votes from both phases combined and affirmative, neutral and > negative binding votes from both phases > combined.
I think this talk about distinct phases is confusing, but otherwise I really like where this is going. To me -- there are no two distinct phases -- there's just opening up of an initial vote. Or to put it another way, I'd like to optimize for a happy path. Which is: vote goes on on dev@ and receives 3+ binding votes from IPMC members. At that point I'd like the vote to be DONE. Is there a way for us to optimize for that? From where I sit one way to optimize is simply frontload the process and ALWAYS CC: IPMC on the community votes. > This terminology answers questions about: > > Whether PPMC votes are binding. They are not. > Whether IPMC member votes on the first phase of voting carry over to the > second phase. They do. > Whether public votes in either phase count. They do. > Whether public votes in either phase are binding. They are not. > > If we agree on the terminology, I'll see what documents need to be updated. Terminology makes sense. Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org