On 29 November 2017 at 13:44, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:59 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Top posting
>>
>> The proposal includes a user@ mailing list.
>> This is generally not recommended for podlings as their focus needs to
>> be on building the developer community.
>>
>
> Podlings are more than welcomed to include user@ lists.

That is not my recollection.

See for example:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201009.mbox/%3CAANLkTim7NzJ%2BBLY8AtkR5ZmDUXHR%2BNZxr44VSqGJ_O3D%40mail.gmail.com%3E

> There's nothing stopping them from building developers and users at the same 
> time.

That's extra work.

If there is already an external users list, let that continue until
the project is ready to graduate, then migrate users across.

But it seems wrong to create a new user list initially.

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