First of all, one cannot "veto" a release, so a -1 vote on a release
is not, really, a blocker. One can still do the release; but it does
indicate a lack of consensus within the (P)PMC that the release
is in a "releasable" state.

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Abhishek Tiwari <a...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Although the vote is over and successful, at this point I think I will just
> update the NOTICE file and bring in another RC for vote.
> 
> However, I am puzzled that this improvement (not blocker) is attracting -1
> votes. I would have expected +1 or 0 with improvement suggestion,
> specifically because I see that this is a very common pattern in many if
> not most of the major Apache TLP projects.
> The two entries in our NOTICE file is for: bootstrap and Glyphicon icons.
> And, for exactly the same included bits, here are the NOTICE files for a
> few other major TLPs:
> Apache Hadoop: https://github.com/apache/hadoop/blob/trunk/NOTICE.txt
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/apache/hadoop/blob/trunk/NOTICE.txt&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1522643463206000&usg=AFQjCNGI8Ip-PaJG9FI1khGSq5ErPtu6eQ>
> 
> Apache HBase: https://github.com/apache/hbase/blob/master/NOTICE.txt
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/apache/hbase/blob/master/NOTICE.txt&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1522643463206000&usg=AFQjCNGuWUiULf55KJuDhruPujU8zDiLhg>
> 
> Apache Ambari: https://github.com/apache/ambari/blob/trunk/
> ambari-web/app/assets/licenses/NOTICE.txt
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/apache/ambari/blob/trunk/ambari-web/app/assets/licenses/NOTICE.txt&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1522643463206000&usg=AFQjCNHhiS9lcjtDZJi0LCRVKBBkiFslmw>
> 
> Apache Spark: https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/NOTICE
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/NOTICE&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1522643463206000&usg=AFQjCNEyNwgI9q--GLEqJJXMLE9gPxD9VQ>
> 
> .. there are many more, but I stopped at these.
> 
> So, isn't enforcing improvements on podling not harsh when it does not
> attracts -1 or blocks releases for other Apache TLP releases?
> 
> Abhishek
> 
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It's hard to come up with a single simple sentence that applies in all
>> cases. So when I said "if something is bundled then it's license and
>> copyright needs to be in LICENSE not NOTICE.” I’m wrong as it's not going
>> to all cover all cases.
>> 
>> For bundling Apache licensed (v2) bits of software the copyright isn’t in
>> the license. If the software has a NOTICE file then that is very likely
>> going to effect your NOTICE file - which I think what Sebb was getting at
>> and this is certainly the most common situation.
>> 
>> In general other permissive licenses (like MIT and BSD) include a
>> copyright line in the license text and theres’s no need to include anything
>> in NOTICE.
>> 
>> Then we come to required notices which are going to be uncommon. The
>> licenses with required notices (ignoring ALv2) that I know of are the BSD
>> with advertising clause (Category X), CDDL (list of modifications and how
>> to get source) and MPL (info how to get source code) which are both
>> Category B. None of these would be bundled in a source release (but may
>> affect a binary one). I can’t think of any category A license which has a
>> required notices. Does anyone know of one?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 
>> 
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