Hi TIanqi, Actually for the initial committers, I believe can onboard them as part of bootstrapping of project.
Any member of IPMC could keep me honest here too =) Reference for Incubator PPMC for info: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html Thanks, - Henry On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 9:36 AM Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> wrote: > HI Tianqi, > > What I can do instead is to restructure the proposal to have PPMC to > include mentors and the PMC members from TVM. > And the rest of committers from TVM will invited from VOTE from PPMC. > > Would that work? > > - Henry > > On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:13 AM Tianqi Chen <tqc...@cs.washington.edu> > wrote: > >> Hi Henry: >> >> Because the TVM community already adopts Apache meritocracy and has a >> separation of PMC and committers. Every new member(PMC and committers) are >> formally discussed and we welcome each member in the community by >> summarizing their contributions. >> If possible, we would like to keep the same structure during incubation. >> The current PMC members are actively proposing new committers and PMC >> members from different organizations in the past few months and will >> continue doing so after the incubation. >> >> Tianqi >> >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 9:07 PM Henry Saputra <henry.sapu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Bit more clarifications, as new podling in Apache, the initial members >> of >> > PPMC consist of mentors and initial commiters of the project. >> > >> > I understand TVM already work mirroring ASF meritoracy [1] but we need >> to >> > change the proposal to follow Apache guidelines to help us cross check >> > membership later for onboarding. >> > >> > If it is OK with you I will change the proposal to merge the "Initial >> PPMC >> > Members" and "Initial Committers", minus the mentors from ASF, to be >> just >> > Initial Committers. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > - Henry >> > >> > >> > [1] https://github.com/dmlc/tvm/blob/master/CONTRIBUTORS.md >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:56 AM Markus Weimer <wei...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> > > Thanks everyone for the discussion thus far. Based on it, I have >> uploaded >> > > an updated proposal here: >> > > >> > > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TVMProposal >> > > >> > > The changes made are: >> > > >> > > 1. Rectify the language around PMC vs. PMC member. Thanks Greg, for >> > > pointing that out! >> > > 2. Adding Furkan, Timothy and Henry as additional mentors. We can >> use >> > > all the help :) >> > > >> > > Assuming there are no further discussion points, I'd like to move >> forward >> > > with a [VOTE]. I'll let this sit here and simmer for another 24h to >> make >> > > sure we are done with the discussion phase. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > Markus >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 1:08 PM Tianqi Chen <tqc...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > > Thanks, everyone for helpful feedbacks. I would like to clarify a >> few >> > > > points being raised so far on behalf of the current TVM PMC. >> > > > >> > > > > PMC vs PMC member >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for pointing it out. This is something we overlooked and will >> > > update >> > > > the proposal to make the change accordingly. >> > > > >> > > > > Champion >> > > > >> > > > Markus has been actively engaging with the TVM community and helped >> the >> > > > community start the incubation process. These efforts include: >> > > > - Introduce the Apache way to in the TVM conference last Dec >> > > > - >> > > > >> > > >> > >> https://sampl.cs.washington.edu/tvmconf/slides/Markus-Weimer-TVM-Apache.pdf >> > > > - Help the community to start the incubation conversation(also >> Thanks >> > to >> > > > Sebastian and Gon) >> > > > - https://github.com/dmlc/tvm/issues/2401 >> > > > - Watch the pre-incubation private list, and give helpful feedback >> > > > >> > > > While we do not expect our mentor to actively watch the community on >> > the >> > > > daily basis(many of our committers only contribute a few days in a >> > week), >> > > > he has been very responsive and helped us to shape the incubation >> > > proposal >> > > > and most importantly be a strong advocate of the Apache way. I >> > personally >> > > > think he is more than qualified as our champion:) >> > > > >> > > > > Hardware artifact >> > > > >> > > > INAL, however, given that Apache only releases source code and our >> > source >> > > > code is in the form of software source code (HLS C and we are >> moving to >> > > > Chisel-(scala) ). Then anyone can take the software source code and >> > > > generate unofficial hardware release. >> > > > >> > > > Tianqi >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 6:44 AM Bertrand Delacretaz < >> > > > bdelacre...@codeconsult.ch> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi, >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 11:44 AM Justin Mclean < >> > > jus...@classsoftware.com >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > If the Apache License works for those artifacts I think that's >> > > > fine... >> > > > > > >> > > > > > It probably doesn’t, but it's complex and INAL, but I have >> touched >> > on >> > > > > this about this in IoT talks at previous ApacheCons... >> > > > > >> > > > > FWIW the prior discussions that I mentioned are linked below - >> from >> > > > > board@ so accessible for ASF Members of Officers only, but we can >> > > > > distill them as needed if a concrete need appears with TVM. >> > > > > >> > > > > We didn't go past the discussions stage at that time (2011) but if >> > > > > there's another case of hardware at the ASF I'm willing to help >> > > > > restart those discussions to move this forward. Either to define >> > which >> > > > > additions to the Apache License are required, or to clarify that >> it's >> > > > > ok as is. >> > > > > >> > > > > So unless there are specific objections about accepting a project >> > > > > which includes hardware as a software artifact I'm in favor of >> > > > > accepting TVM and sorting out these things during incubation. >> > > > > >> > > > > -Bertrand >> > > > > >> > > > > Prior board@ discussions at https://s.apache.org/hw2011_1 and >> > > > > https://s.apache.org/hw2011_2 >> > > > > >> > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >
