But reporting isn't the incubators way of punishing podling. It's the way we know how they are doing.
Yes it was our fault for not pinging them in time, but I really would love to see reports, that we missed. But what do the others think? Chris Holen Sie sich Outlook für Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> ________________________________ From: John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 2:29:16 PM To: general <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: May 2022 Podling Reporting Timeline Hi Christofer On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:47 AM Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote: > Hi John, > > guess I missed the second part of your email ;-) > > Well, I am a bit unsure if we really should skip the ones that for example > missed to submit last month because nobody reminded them, but I think in > such a case it would be half a year of information missing. Even if this > might not be too useful for the board, I think it's useful to the IPMC. > Basically, I can't (personally) fault a podling for not reporting when no reminders were sent out. We failed to hold up our side of the agreement in my mind. It's great that some podlings still did the work to get a report put together. Perhaps we review those in the past 3 months of missed reports and also report them? I'm not sure. > > So, I think podlings that missed filling in their parts in the last 3 > months, should still report this time. But that's just my opinion. > I agree with you, the problem is that every podling (other than new podlings possibly) has missed a report (at least from the board's point of view). While there's the main review the IPMC takes on the podlings' reports, the board also reviews them. Since the IPMC lapsed on maintaining this, it may end up over burdening the board to put out a report that has every single podling reporting in it. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de> > Sent: Donnerstag, 21. April 2022 10:42 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: RE: May 2022 Podling Reporting Timeline > > I should also add that some projects have failed to submit in the last 3 > months, so I would add to this list: > > - brpc > - Annotator > - Crail > - EventMesh > - Flagon > - Hivemail > - InLong > - Liminal > - Marvin-AI > - Milagro > - Nemo > - Pony Mail > - Spot > - Teaclave > - Wayang > > So, we're also expecting these projects to report this month. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. April 2022 18:24 > To: general <general@incubator.apache.org> > Subject: May 2022 Podling Reporting Timeline > > Note - I'm sending this a week early per procedure as we have some catch > up to do. > > May 2022 Incubator report timeline: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022 > > Wed May 04 -- Podling reports due by end of day > Sun May 08 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day > Sun May 08 -- Summary due by end of day > Tue May 10 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day > Wed May 11 -- Report submitted to Board > Wed May 18 -- Board meeting > > According to podlings.xml, the following podlings are expected to report: > - Training > - Heron > - Tuweni > - Pagespeed > - Toree > - Livy > - NLPCraft > - Sedona > - Doris > - SDAP > - Linkis > > I'm suggesting that right now we keep the current reporting periods as we > the Incubator PMC have failed to report to the Board, rather than it > necessarily being a failing of podlings. If your podling is on this list > but isn't present on the confluence page, please add it with the necessary > sections. i'll take a look in the next few days and make sure podlings.xml > represents reality. > > - John, your friendly neighborhood Report Manager >
