Sounds good to me. On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 1:30 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Jarek. I think that you bring great experience and expertise > and would be a great mentor to Hamilton and Burr and any other > podling. > > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 at 07:59, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > TL;DR; Following earlier discussion with Justin, I would like to propose > > myself to be accepted as a mentor by Hamilton and Burr incubating > projects. > > > > I have been already trying to help and provide my guidance - last month i > > was on a long vacations and attending both Community Over Code and > Airflow > > Summit so my availability was kinda limited, but since I am back now and > > got a bit through pile of things that grew, I am happy to spend a bit > more > > time - and I would love to be officially accepted as a mentor. > > > > Of course - I spend all 150% of my time on Airflow, but also after 6 > years > > of being PMC member that also means I have quite a good understanding of > > what it means to be an ASF project - from release, discussions, vendor > > neutrality, decision making and building community point of view, so I am > > happy to provide my guidance to both Hamilton and Burr - both technology > > and "space" and user base are very similar to Airflow - so you might see > > Hamitlon and Burr as somehow "competition" to Airflow but in case of ASF > we > > do not think in this terms for other ASF projects (we already have > "NiFi", > > "Dolphin Scheduler" used to have "Oozie" and there are few other ASF > > projects that are similar. And I am friends (and have been helping in the > > past) all of those PMCs as well). > > > > As long as we avoid (as PMC) referring and "poking" at others and avoid > > unhealthy "comparative" communication (there were other cases in the ASF > > where "competing" projects had this kind of communication and it was > called > > out and stopped) - this is all part of "release software for public good" > > mission and healthy "coopetition" - we can also learn from each other. > And > > to be honest also my interest in spending time looking at Hamilton and > Burr > > discussion is to see if we can learn something and apply to Airflow - we > > are always at a lookout of ideas and looking at what others do - purely > to > > see if we can improve and maybe creatively apply similar approaches if we > > find them interesting and useful for our users. > > > > One more things - for those who do not realise - I met Stefan already and > > we discussed Hamliton and Burr in the past - both in "electronic" and > > in-person communication, I think last time we met at Pycon US in 2024 and > > this is where we also discussed that one day Hamilton and Burr might > become > > an ASF incubated project (I hope that discussion was partially reason why > > they both incubate now, though I think only Stefan can tell how much it > > influenced it. > > > > One last thing - I am also a security committee member at the ASF - which > > means that I am involved in overlooking the process of security issue > > handling, and i also see all the security related discussions, this is > > something (security) that will become even more important in near future > > (because of CRA regulations and similar) - and I am happy to help with > that > > as well - I am also involved in "Apache Trusted Release" efforts by the > > Foundation so hopefully in the next few months we will get to the place > > where the mechanics of releases will get a major improvement - with ATR > > web-based + API tooling, more automation, no SVN involvement and better > > automation (including Trusted Publishing and Apache PyPI organisation to > > publish projects) - this is an ongoing efforts where Airflow is part of > > Alpha (so far) and Beta (next month or so) testing and I will be happy to > > help with onboarding Hamilton and Burr to that as well. > > > > I also write long emails (heh :) ) so you will have to bear with me. But > I > > always try to put TL;DR; to summarise it for those who do not wish to > read > > it all. > > > > I hope I can be helpful here. > > > > J, > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
