Hi Justin,

I completely agree with your points. From a community standpoint,
regardless of the specific chat or instant messaging tool used, it must be
open to everyone and accessible offline or asynchronously. Any
requirement—such as a login, specific language, or region lock—that
prevents a portion of the community from participating is unacceptable.

My main point is that the tool itself doesn't matter; the features do. In
essence, any tool is acceptable as long as it provides the same core
features that the mailing lists provide for communication and
record-keeping.

Regards,
JB

On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 10:23 PM Justin Mclean <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are all interesting points.
>
> When it comes to accessibility, I mostly agree that bandwidth and English
> fluency are less of a barrier than before. Still, I want to point out one
> issue I keep running into: region-locked platforms. For example, some
> projects use WeChat for discussions, which I can't access. Even for
> globally accessible platforms, I usually have to sign up or create an
> account, which means I need to use another client, which is a barrier to
> entry.
>
> From the Incubator and ASF values perspective, this is one area where we
> should make sure that core project discussions always have a globally
> accessible home.
>
> I’m not arguing against using these platforms for social interaction; I'm
> only saying that decisions, direction, and governance-level discussions
> must always land somewhere globally reachable and archived.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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