Hi Dave, Thanks for the feedback and clarification, and thanks to Jarek for summarising the intent well.
To answer your direct question: the draft is posted to the incubator general list as a starting point for PPMC discussion, not placed directly into CWiki. The [PODLING TO COMPLETE] sections are intentional; the draft is structurally incomplete by design so the PPMC has to engage actively rather than just filing it as-is. It's worth emphasising that this is still an experiment. A good way to test it in practice would be for a few podlings to opt in and try it out, so we can see how it works in practice before drawing wider conclusions. On your specific suggestions: (1) Mentor sign-off position: the traditional position has been at the bottom of the report, and I'd prefer to keep that convention for now to avoid confusion with existing tooling and expectations. (2) PPMC member sign-off section: I think this is a reasonable addition and worth including. It makes explicit who in the PPMC has reviewed the report, which is useful. (3) Community written summary: I agree this is the most important suggestion, and I'd like to include it. A free-form human-written section at the top is exactly the kind of thing that breaks the mechanical nature of the report and demonstrates genuine reflection. I'll add this. (4) Excluding unsigned reports: I'd expect we continue with current practice here. On the exit strategy section for podlings over 18 months: I understand the intent, but I don't think a blanket time-based trigger is the right approach. The Incubator already has three well-documented transition paths: graduation, withdrawal, and retirement, each appropriate for different situations. Some podlings have complex licensing issues, some have larger lessons to work through, and some (as your Pony Mail example illustrates well) are genuinely unique cases that don't fit a standard timeline at all. The CWiki Lifecycle and Transition [1] and the Incubator Case Studies [2] both document this. The Incubator is not a one-size-fits-all process, and I think the report should reflect that nuance rather than impose a time-based trigger. Kind Regards, Justin 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Lifecycle+and+Transition 2. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/Incubator+Case+Studies --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
