> what is to be Jakarta's charter?
The stated mission (presumably based on the charter) is:
"Provide commercial-quality server solutions based on the Java Platform
that are developed in an open and cooperative fashion."
And it seems that perhaps the gist of ASF Chairman Roy Fielding's point
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http://www.mail-archive.com/ant-dev%40jakarta.apache.org/msg01987.html
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is that Ant is not a server solution.
Over in the Ant-Dev thread, most people seem to favor expanding the
scope, so we may simply need to add something like "and related
development tools". Java is a component-based architecture, and to
provide commercial-quality (or better yet, "Apache-quality" ;0) server
solutions, we need related tools, like Ant, and other various gizmos
like XML digesters. So I would suggest that the charter reflect our
mission to
"Provide for the Java platform, standards-based, production-grade
server solutions and related tools, developed in an open and
cooperative fashion."
I think the idea of being standards-based is implicit in the Apache
culture ("correct first"), but may need to be made plain to others.
Organizationally, I would suggest that Jakarta be product-centric. I
don't see any real benefit to catagorizing products or forming
additional PMCs. The PMC may wish to experiment with internal
sub-comittees to help watch over the various subprojects, and
catagorize them as an administrative convenience, but that's better
done by convention than proclamation.
But at all times, I think it's important that we organize for the
benefit of the end-user, which speaks to the "commercial-quality" or
"production-grade" part of our mission. This is not OSS for OSS's sake
-- we should be trying to build real products for mere mortals. With
the ultimate goal of a product becoming the de facto, if not actual,
reference implmentation for its breed.
Peter Donald perhaps said this better at:
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http://www.mail-archive.com/ant-dev%40jakarta.apache.org/msg02066.html
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Meanwhile, I've also seen Jakarta referred to as an "incubator".
Moving forward, I would suggest that we actually start new subprojects
in an incubator area, until they have had their first stable release,
at which time the PMC would consider giving them "top-shelf" status.
This would give us the opportunity to try things, without putting the
prestige of Jakarta (and the ASF) on the line each time.
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