At 17:14 12.03.2001 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
>Jon Stevens wrote:
>> what is the status of integrating ted's changes into the main website?
>
>If we're talking about 
>
>< http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html >

This is one hell of a document. I have one comment regarding the four voting colors 
+1, +0, -0, -1. Why   do we have +0 and -0? I propose instead:

+1 = yes
 0 = abstain
-1 = no   

A vote is vote and better not be charged with nebulous secondary meanings.

Similarly, for action items, we currently have 

+1 "The action should be performed, and I will help."
+0 "Abstain," "I support the action but I can't help."
-0 "Abstain," "I don't support the action but I can't help with an alternative."
-1 "The action should not be performed and I am offering an explanation or 
alternative."  

I suggest this should be changed to:

+1 = yes, good idea
 0 = abstain, I don't have a clear opinion on the matter
-1 = veto, bad idea

Restricting the voting to the above 3 colors decouples the vote from the engagement of 
the voter to the idea. One can express engagement in plain English, as in

+1, I think foobar is a good idea but I have no time to help.

or

0, I have no idea, foobar is outside my turf

or

0, I don't have a strong opinion either way; there are both advantages and 
disadvantages in adopting foobar but I will actively support foobar if it gets 
accepted. 

or 

+1, foobar is great I will actively support it

I presume that there is long Apache tradition for voting in 4 flavors. However, it 
does not hurt to challenge the established ways from time to time. :-) Ceki 


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