Hi Pete,
Voting is a serious matter. The results of a vote should be crystal clear as
ultimately it is the vote that allow us to make clear cut choices. The results of a
vote should not be tainted with uncertainty.
There is a difference between believing/supporting an idea and actively contributing
to make it happen. To the question, do you support equal rights for women, I would
answer without hesitation, YES. However, I cannot remember an occasion where I
actually actively did something to promote equality for women. (To my defense, I can't
remember an occasion where I actively undermined it either.) Does this mean that
equals rights for women should be abolished because there are just too few men to
promote it?
By taking a vote we are making a choice: between good and bad, right and wrong. A vote
should not be coupled to whether the subject of the vote is feasible. If we think
something right but no one actually makes it happen, then tough. We are all
volunteers after all. I assume that if we voted whether one was for "world peace", we
would only get positive answers. Attaining world peace is a different matter. The vote
allows us to determine the will of the "people". Once the direction is clearly set,
then people can work to achieve the set goal.
I am being square about this but voting rules are important and +0 and -0 flavors
unnecessarily dilute/muddy the results of a vote.
At 13:35 13.03.2001 +1100, Peter Donald wrote:
>At 02:49 13/3/01 +0100, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>>This is one hell of a document. I have one comment regarding the four voting
>>colors +1, +0, -0, -1. Why do we have +0 and -0?
>
>Because it forces some semblance of accountability. If I +1 something (say
>a release) but have no intention of supporting it then something is wrong.
It seems to me that we (Apache) have a tradition of mixing a call for volunteers with
a decision making (voting) process. A call for volunteers for a release can be made
with a [POLL] and a decision to make a release can be made with a [VOTE]. OK, I think
I hammered my point for long enough... Cheers, Ceki
>We need to be able to distinguish between those who think the move is a
>good one and those who will actually implement it. If no one volunteers to
>implement the item then it should fail.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Pete
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