At 04:52  13/3/01 +0100, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
>Hi Pete,
>
>Voting is a serious matter. The results of a vote should be crystal clear as 
>ultimately it is the vote that allow us to make clear cut choices. The
results 
>of a vote should not be tainted with uncertainty.  

They are not ;)

>I am being square about this but voting rules are important and +0 and -0 
>flavors unnecessarily dilute/muddy the results of a vote. 

I am not sure why you think that - I think that they actually clarify the
results ;)

>It seems to me that we (Apache) have a tradition of mixing a call for 
>volunteers with a decision making (voting) process. A call for volunteers
for 
>a release can be made with a [POLL] and a decision to make a release can be 
>made with a [VOTE]. OK, I think I hammered my point for long enough... 

More overhead may work for major decisions but for minor decisions it can
get unpalatable. I have seen some votes last for about 3 months - adding
any more overhead would be ludicrous ;) It would be nice perhaps if we had
some support tools to enable us to make decisions like this at Apache
(similar to what was discussed on library-dev with respect to JakartaForge)
but until then I don't want to see more talk - I want to see action ;)


Cheers,

Pete

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| "Faced with the choice between changing one's mind, |
| and proving that there is no need to do so - almost |
| everyone gets busy on the proof."                   |
|              - John Kenneth Galbraith               |
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