I have read the emails and discover that turbine and struts are basically
the same thing competing with each other therefore I have a few more
questions concerning struts and tubine:

which one has been around longer?
Which is more mature?

Thanks for the help I am just trying to get my head around all the different
programs running within Jakarta and seeing which ones I should use in my new
product that I am developing. I currenlty use apache httpd and tomcat and I
discovered struts and thought that was the way to go, then I saw the turbine
and velocity and went HMMM they also sound interesting.

What I am trying to develop is a large (I mean LARGE) enterprise portal
where the information can be anything including geospatial, textural, video
and others. THis will have pluggable web components into the system I will
be extending one of the frameworks either struts or turbine for my purposes
and I am trying to figure out which way to go by asking a few people their
opinions as they have already played around with some of these frameworks.

Egon Kuster
Defence Science & Technology Organisation
Information Technology Division
Information Exploitation Group
Phone: +61 8 8259 5175
Fax: +61 8 8259 5619
Mobile: +61 401 676 479


-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2001 11:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Struts, velocity, turbine, jetspeed, lions, tigers and
bears... oh my


"Kuster, Egon" wrote:
> Is anyone able to tell me how struts, velocity, turbine, and jetspeed all
> fit together as they all seem to be doing very similar things. Why should
I
> use one over the other etc...

Struts and Turbine/Velocity are really serving different audiences. For
some comparisons see

< http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00495.html >

<
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03206.html
>

< http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html  >
 
> Shouldn't these different projects work a little closer together to create
a
> more coherent single package which incorporates the best of each?

Many of the products work closely together. Jetspeed is actually a good
example of several Apache products being used together. 

In my current project, I'm using several Jakarta technologies together,
including components from Struts, Taglibs, RegExp, and Tomcat.

But the real answer is that since this is a volunteer organization, we
can't simply mandate that all the products fit together like they were
cut from the same jigsaw. The volunteers who write the code make the
decisions, based on their own experience, and feedback from other
developers and users. 

-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
-- Tel 716 737-3463.
-- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/

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