bill parducci at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> well, yeah, there is that. then again, who knows with those guys? you
> might find them monitoring the list ready to make you put '(r)' every
> time you use java in an e-mail! :o)

One of those guys, errr, ehemmm, well... It's me... :)

No, seriously, logos and so on are a _very_ serious matter... A couple of
years ago we ran into troubles because we used the sketch of an Native
American Indian sitting in front of a cup of coffee for Java.Apache.ORG
(well, also the name was kind of a pain, got into "troubles" for that too).

You know where you start, you never know where you end up to... (It's a
f***ed up world, indeed, but...)

    Pier - who likes Java(TM) :) :) :)


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