The only thing preventing Java from manifesting is Sun itself. 

Sun get a clue, you fought MS hard  and won and now you cry wolf when the
leader of the pack refuses to support Java.

What's wrong with you?

Does MS bitch to you not bundling IE for Unix with your Solaris. NO! So why
should they support you, if has no economic value to MS? What EVA is earned
if you refuse to license JAVA to MS? None! So stop the CRYing.

What you should do is let JAVA manifest itself by just donating it to the
OPEN Source community. Just let it go! And Java will be the defacto standar
and not MS.
Nael Mohammad
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