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... slightly off topic.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21285.html

There was discussion here about this last week.

It seems to me that SUN has nothing to complain about.  No one (no significantly
large percentage of users) uses Java for client side use.  Why would anyone want
Java in XP by default.  I mean they can only fit 650M or so on a CD and the JDK
is starting to get pretty big :)

Seriously.. If SUN wouldn't have been so strict with Java licensing it would be
ubiquitous by now.  Compare Linux (or even *BSD or Apache) growth with Java
grown over the same time frame.  Linux has done very well and Java is still
stuck on the server.  Heck it isn't even standardized.

A good measurement of this is to look at grass roots websites.  How many
websites are dedicated to Linux vs Java?  There are only about 3-5 Java
dedicated (significant) websites but Linux has about 50-100 or so.

So the moral of the story?  Open Source Java, gain 100% industry acceptance and
the next time MS ships an OS, so many people will be using Java, they will have
no choice but to include it.

Hope SUN is paying attention...  this is important.

Kevin

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should be protected by the rule of law...
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