On Sat, 20 Oct 2001 00:52, Sam Ruby wrote: > Endre Stlsvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sounds like a nice, open structure, always glad and happy for new > > thoughts, ideas and ways of doing things. > > Do I detect a bit of sarcasm in there? > > Speaking as a relative newcomer (the entire JBoss discussion predated my > involement, for example). who now is the chair of the PMC: introducing new > thoughts, ideas, and ways of doing things is most definately possible. > I've had my own agenda, but I started by understanding and contributing to > the codebases that I wanted to influence first. > > In other words, I became part of the community.
I tried another technique - I complained loudly and often about things ;) For instance a while back, the process of project proposals was done on a private list. I complained because it wasn't open and it got changed ;) Annoying people can be an effective convincing method if non-aggresive. Consider gump and it's mail-outs - that uses the same technique - ant it is relatively effective ;) (BTW Sam - have we ever had a clean build yet ?) -- Cheers, Pete *------------------------------------------------------* | "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want | | to test a man's character, give him power." | | -Abraham Lincoln | *------------------------------------------------------* --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
